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Martin_1962

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Re: Internet issues
« Reply #15 on: 17 November 2010, 23:06:53 »
The router is straight into the main sovket aboout an hour after pestering David the Indian chap it was back at 448.

VERY ODD
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« Reply #16 on: 17 November 2010, 23:24:16 »
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ePeen! ;D

And all this talk of speed made me look at mine .. and notice that something has gone horribly awry with my Virgin connection (speed has dropped off to ~7MB and the receive power has jumped from ~1dBmV to 10dBmV which is far too night)

Anyhoo back to poor Martin with his upstream that's slower than a 1200/75 split rate modem ;D

I wonder if I could interest him in the 56K modem I've just found in my loft? ;)

Kevin

I still have my old 56K USR Sportster too (couldn't afford a Courier at the time) ;)

And after messing with forward path attenuators I've managed to 'mostly' fix my own connection, too - unfortunately its still only getting ~17Mb/s rather than the 50Mb/s it got up to a couple of weeks ago :'(
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Re: Internet issues
« Reply #17 on: 18 November 2010, 18:12:10 »
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ePeen! ;D

And all this talk of speed made me look at mine .. and notice that something has gone horribly awry with my Virgin connection (speed has dropped off to ~7MB and the receive power has jumped from ~1dBmV to 10dBmV which is far too night)

Anyhoo back to poor Martin with his upstream that's slower than a 1200/75 split rate modem ;D
I suspect thats 64kb, not 64k ;)
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Re: Internet issues
« Reply #18 on: 18 November 2010, 18:13:12 »
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The router is straight into the main sovket aboout an hour after pestering David the Indian chap it was back at 448.

VERY ODD
BUT is the internal wiring disconnected?

Where are you getting the speeds from?
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Re: Internet issues
« Reply #19 on: 18 November 2010, 18:14:01 »
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ePeen! ;D

And all this talk of speed made me look at mine .. and notice that something has gone horribly awry with my Virgin connection (speed has dropped off to ~7MB and the receive power has jumped from ~1dBmV to 10dBmV which is far too night)

Anyhoo back to poor Martin with his upstream that's slower than a 1200/75 split rate modem ;D

I wonder if I could interest him in the 56K modem I've just found in my loft? ;)

Kevin

I still have my old 56K USR Sportster too (couldn't afford a Courier at the time) ;)

And after messing with forward path attenuators I've managed to 'mostly' fix my own connection, too - unfortunately its still only getting ~17Mb/s rather than the 50Mb/s it got up to a couple of weeks ago :'(
How many couriers would you like, sir? Int or Ext?  All updated to v.90 ;)
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Re: Internet issues
« Reply #20 on: 18 November 2010, 19:00:35 »
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How many couriers would you like, sir? Int or Ext?  All updated to v.90 ;)

Woah! Steady on! No man can survive at that kind of speed. :o

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Martin_1962

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« Reply #21 on: 18 November 2010, 20:36:05 »
192 up now but 3072 down

Still U/S for gaming

More fighting the call centres tomorrow

Who is a good ISP for gaming?
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« Reply #22 on: 18 November 2010, 20:54:27 »
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192 up now but 3072 down

Still U/S for gaming

More fighting the call centres tomorrow

Who is a good ISP for gaming?

Not Virgin, for sure .. I just found out (never noticed before) that they've implemented traffic shaping which is apparently having 'unintended side effects' of .. well, breaking pretty much anything that's latency dependent.

I used to rate Zen, personally, but they are (or were!) very expensive.

O2 were quite good for me, as long as you called after 9pm if you had a problem as you went straight through to L3 support rather than their 'other' call centers.
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« Reply #23 on: 18 November 2010, 20:55:34 »
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How many couriers would you like, sir? Int or Ext?  All updated to v.90 ;)

Those were the days! :)
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Re: Internet issues
« Reply #24 on: 19 November 2010, 08:54:42 »
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192 up now but 3072 down

Still U/S for gaming

More fighting the call centres tomorrow

Who is a good ISP for gaming?
FFS, is that router reported speeds, or speed test speeds?  Have you disconnected internal wiring as suggested? Have you let router stabilise for a few days? YOU have to do YOUR part as well ;)

Those stats are fine for gaming, latency is your issue with games
Very few ISPs use unfettled internet, virtually all traffic shape to some extent, its the only way to make lost cost providers business plans work. Thats different to contention.

Zen Internet is a notable exception, but because of this, they are far from the cheapest.
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Martin_1962

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Re: Internet issues
« Reply #25 on: 19 November 2010, 09:57:42 »
Router reported but when it drops I get serious lag, but usually fine at 448

When it drops to 64 I can't even stay connected
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Re: Internet issues
« Reply #26 on: 19 November 2010, 10:02:34 »
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Router reported but when it drops I get serious lag, but usually fine at 448

When it drops to 64 I can't even stay connected
Your internal wiring disconnected?


BTW, your ISP have no control (in laymans terms, not strictly true, but is for this convo) over the sync speed between your router and the DSLAM
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Martin_1962

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Re: Internet issues
« Reply #27 on: 19 November 2010, 10:06:31 »
Router is directly connected to the line, not via an extension.

I think BT force this sometimes to get a faster down speed as they say upstream doesn't matter.

But I keep getting Indian call centres with poor English, usef to be UK calll centres as well :( :( :( :(

Currently huge download fron work as I am off work with a VERY SORE toe
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Re: Internet issues
« Reply #28 on: 19 November 2010, 11:59:45 »
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192 up now but 3072 down

Still U/S for gaming

More fighting the call centres tomorrow

Who is a good ISP for gaming?
FFS, is that router reported speeds, or speed test speeds?  Have you disconnected internal wiring as suggested? Have you let router stabilise for a few days? YOU have to do YOUR part as well ;)

Those stats are fine for gaming, latency is your issue with games
Very few ISPs use unfettled internet, virtually all traffic shape to some extent, its the only way to make lost cost providers business plans work. Thats different to contention.

Zen Internet is a notable exception, but because of this, they are far from the cheapest.

They are still great, though ;) Worth the money if you can get a decent speed connection, IMHO.. Unfortunately I couldn't justify spending £90 a month when my line would only cope with (just!) 2Mbit, and the new house is the same (hence Virgin, although they've gone to pot recently, it seems!).

Anyhoo I digress..

Martin - what router are you using? If you tell us the make & model it might be possible to tell you how to get the bin information from it, which would give a good idea where the problem might lie..

I had a similar problem - there was 'something' near my phone line somewhere that was pumping a massive amount of wideband noise onto the line 'low down' which was swamping the SNR of my upstream bins (downstream was fine, just my upstream dropped off to zilch).  Never did get down to the bottom of it unfortunately, since BT are uninterested in a fault that doesn't affect voice service (and minimum legal data requirements are 9600baud IIRC?)
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Martin_1962

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Re: Internet issues
« Reply #29 on: 19 November 2010, 12:46:39 »
White BT Home hub
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