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[Lazydocker]

Britain isn't that flat...  The Fenland areas are flat (where I live), but, we still get snow and ice...  We just don't get the sustained bad weather conditions to warrant the use of winter tyres...

Banjax lives in Scotland, which I am certain does get hit harder during the winter time and as such he does see the possible benefits of them, but, in the main part of the country, I still would say that we don't get the prolonged conditions to warrant them...

Exactly... With the travelling I do I would shred snow tyres within a season without trying 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

To put things into some context, certainly for Kent, most Southern counties, and even much of the Midlands, we may see for an average winter an average snowfall of maybe 3 to 6 inches, maybe slightly more if we are lucky, outside of the 1947 and 1962/63 winters.  Many winters in the south have seen no, or virtually, no snow at all in recent decades!

These are the approximate United States of America state snowfall amounts.  No wonder they have a certain time of the year when many motorists fit winter tyres!

    Virginia                               48 inches
    West Virginia               43 inches
    Maryland                       33 inches
    Pennsylvania               30 inches
    New Jersey                       28 inches
    New York                       28 inches
    Connecticut                       27 inches
    Kentucky                       27 inches
    North Carolina               25 inches
    District of Columbia       24 inches
    Ohio                               17 inches
    Massachusetts               17 inches
    Georgia                       12 inches

City snowfall records

    Philadelphia, PA                30 inches
    Newark, NJ                        28 inches
    New York, NY                20 inches
    Charleston, WV                19 inches
    Cincinnati, OH                14 inches

 

[Dishevelled Den]

That reminds me.. Need to resurrect my turntable (and build a phono stage so I can listen to it again) .

As for Cem, I think he needs an iPod to make sure there is no recurrence of this issue.

Kevin

I've cleared out my garage (pics shortly) and have installed bits and pieces of old kit (not the Quad) to provide some entertainment when I'm out there.

I can play all my Yes, Wakeman and assorted vinyl without being asked, "Really, must you play that?"

Also laid a cat5 in so have the MCE and OOF as well. 8-)

Happy days.

[Kevin Wood]

I've cleared out my garage (pics shortly) and have installed bits and pieces of old kit (not the Quad) to provide some entertainment when I'm out there.

I can play all my Yes, Wakeman and assorted vinyl without being asked, "Really, must you play that?"

Also laid a cat5 in so have the MCE and OOF as well. 8-)

Happy days.

Sounds like you're being chucked moving out to me.

Ohio                              17 inches

That surprises me.

I got "snowed in" in Cincinnati during a business trip about 15 years ago and the place was total chaos. Got into a taxi and the driver was bragging about the 484 he had under the "hood" while I was trying not to laugh at his attempts to keep the damned thing on the road. 

Still, when we arrived at the hotel in one piece we found it full of stewardesses who had also been delayed , and it was happy hour at the bar, so all's well that ends well.

Kevin

[cem_devecioglu]

ok..

I think its really necessary to correct a
mis-understanding/misnomer .. :-/

 snow/winter tires are not only for snow or ice ,
 they are designed to be used for a wide range of temperatures and speeds in cold, either wet or dry conditions..

the tire firms design them to handle dry/rainy conditions and resist for wear .. they can handle high speeds like summer tires .. however by their nature , their wear rates are higher on dry as you can estimate, but that doesnt mean you will finish them on a dry run  .. most tire shops and firms advice you not to make high speeds to keep their teeth! (or thread depth) to use them under urgent conditions..

another factor is that their grip is also incomparable on rainy/muddy roads..

so claims that for areas that dont have snow or rarely snow ,they cant benefit from the purchase,
is totally wrong..

you can use them below 17-18 celcius like any tire , however their advantages start to show them below 7 celcius..

the only drawback is that they increase fuel consumption about %5-8 .. and of course brake pad wear increase will be similiar ..

 

[jerry]

well I have to agree with cem, recently purchased some nockian winter tyres as had more than a few tricky moments last winter and they reckon poor winters go in 3s so um and aghed about it and invested in some. Wish Id done it last year. The grip is far better and feel far more confident. Doesnt mean you dont do all the normal stuff (slow and steady/weight in the boot etc)but can certainly vouch for the difference they make. As for the old record thing, reminds me to put a new turntable on my xmas list as Ive exhausted my supply of styluses now and their now obselete. The better half got me one of those turntables that you connect to your Pc to transfer your old vinyl to Cd but whilst the turntable is pretty good  and you can connect it to amp/speakers it hasnt got a bloody lid!Tbh I view the old vinyl album v CD the same as kindle books to proper books. When you bought an album you felt like you'd got something of value but cds seem far more disposable. Must be the ludite in me but even prefer that old analogue sound, seems warmer somehow and less sterile. Or maybe I just miss all those crackles and cleaning the fluff off the needle

[cem_devecioglu]

well I have to agree with cem, recently purchased some nockian winter tyres as had more than a few tricky moments last winter and they reckon poor winters go in 3s so um and aghed about it and invested in some. Wish Id done it last year. The grip is far better and feel far more confident. Doesnt mean you dont do all the normal stuff (slow and steady/weight in the boot etc)but can certainly vouch for the difference they make. As for the old record thing, reminds me to put a new turntable on my xmas list as Ive exhausted my supply of styluses now and their now obselete. The better half got me one of those turntables that you connect to your Pc to transfer your old vinyl to Cd but whilst the turntable is pretty good  and you can connect it to amp/speakers it hasnt got a bloody lid!Tbh I view the old vinyl album v CD the same as kindle books to proper books. When you bought an album you felt like you'd got something of value but cds seem far more disposable. Must be the ludite in me but even prefer that old analogue sound, seems warmer somehow and less sterile. Or maybe I just miss all those crackles and cleaning the fluff off the needle