Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[Banjax]

I feel that in order to give Death as a sentance then there must be absolute certainty in that the "doer" is guilty...  Aside from that, it should depend to some amount as to the nature of the case involved...

It does anger me when I hear of the cost of keeping these creatures in prison, but, there are some instances in which I see death as being lenient, where, a murder has been so violent and cold that life obviously means nothing to the killer...  At this point blow torches and pliers come to mind...

I also believe that punishments should fit the crime and that the modern prison service needs to be reviewed.  The perception of prisons today, make them appear very comfortable places..   

With regard to Derek Bentley, I feel that he shouldn't have been executed, regardless as to what was meant by the "Let him have it!" comment...  He was mentally disabled and although he was 19, only had the mental age of an 11 yer old...

no such thing - many seemingly cast iron convictions for murder have been overturned in light of new evidence or on appeal 

[albitz]

I have always been firmly against the death penalty for many different reasons, but I must admit that I am starting to waver.
Someone has got to do something about the apparently ever increasing number of hideous crimes which seem to attract very little in the way of punishment in this country.
We have become a complete soft touch in almost any way you care to mention. And those who would wish to engage in commiting such acts are well aware of this.
Something has to change, soon.

[Dishevelled Den]

I have always been firmly against the death penalty for many different reasons, but I must admit that I am starting to waver.
Someone has got to do something about the apparently ever increasing number of hideous crimes which seem to attract very little in the way of punishment in this country.
We have become a complete soft touch in almost any way you care to mention. And those who would wish to engage in commiting such acts are well aware of this.
Something has to change, soon.

I do agree in part, I think the entire system of criminal justice in this country (especially where sentencing and the custodial regime are concerned) needs an overhaul - but not of the Ken Clark variety.

[cem_devecioglu]

another point I must note,

if you apply death penalty to any murder, knowing that, those people will start complete cleaning (multiple murders) .. and you must shot them to catch , no way otherwise :-/

[Richie London]

"feed em to the pigs harold"
govt should open up a pig farm and send the condemned them there 

[Banjax]

"feed em to the pigs harold"
govt should open up a pig farm and send the condemned them there 

hey - i like bacon, so...err no thanks Richie 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I feel that in order to give Death as a sentance then there must be absolute certainty in that the "doer" is guilty...  Aside from that, it should depend to some amount as to the nature of the case involved...

It does anger me when I hear of the cost of keeping these creatures in prison, but, there are some instances in which I see death as being lenient, where, a murder has been so violent and cold that life obviously means nothing to the killer...  At this point blow torches and pliers come to mind...

I also believe that punishments should fit the crime and that the modern prison service needs to be reviewed.  The perception of prisons today, make them appear very comfortable places..   

With regard to Derek Bentley, I feel that he shouldn't have been executed, regardless as to what was meant by the "Let him have it!" comment...  He was mentally disabled and although he was 19, only had the mental age of an 11 yer old...

That will should play on the conscience of this country, and would have to be a consideration in any process to bring back the death penalty.

[bob.dent]

A resounding yes for me providing guilt it beyond reasonable doubt. Why should we fork out thousands of pounds to keep some of these sick wacko's in prison year after year?!!

[bigegg]

i agree.
but how do you stem the problem?
benefits only for married parents might be a start

Marriage, or lack of marriage has got nothing to do with parenting skills or ability.

True. but it doubles the chances that at least ONE of the parents has some.

[jyr001]

Definately YES - Life for a Life providing it is absolutely proved that the perpetrator is Guilty. There have been too many miscarriages of justice - Jonathan Evans comes to mind. Many years ago maybe but a gross miscarriage of justice nonetheless.

Custodial sentences seem to be no deterent nowadays. Acts of terrorism should definately bring the death penalty if they have taken life- in the current climate most of them (terrorists that is) want to be martrys anyway so really we'd be doing them a favour if they don't manage to detonate themselves

[Martin_1962]

I vary so much on this, sometimes pro sometime anti, very worried about miscarriages, but killed during crime I think fair enough

[Amigo]

Absoloutley NOT. Most of these sickos want to die, why give them the pleasure? Make them live in fear of attack from other inmates...yes they do get attacked despite segregation, Roy Whiting, stabbed in the face, Ian Huntley, throat cut, many more such cases & good on 'em. Death spares them such terror & pain, they should stay in for natural life.
    If they were to serve hard labour, bread & water diet minmal if any medical/dental care, TV/Radio, visits, newspapers, they would cost a fraction of todays prices in keep & die much earlier so the money argument would'nt stand.

[albitz]

Unfortunately Guy, the EU and its yumin rites laws would never allow us to save taxpayers money in that way.
In fact I was reading just yesterday that a murderer who killed an elderly couple in cold blood has won a court case against the prison service, so that they now have to address him as "Mr Gunner", as he was apparently not being shown enough respect by the warders.

[geoffr70]

i agree.
but how do you stem the problem?
benefits only for married parents might be a start

Marriage, or lack of marriage has got nothing to do with parenting skills or ability.

True. but it doubles the chances that at least ONE of the parents has some.

I think you've just made a rather large and silly contradiction there!

Marriage, or lack of marriage has got nothing to do with parenting skills or ability. Nor is it for me to judge other peoples parenting skills, but of course that doesn't mean we don't have own opinions!

Just because two people choose not to have their partnership recognised in law, the law which is a shambles in this country IMO, has no bearing whatsoever on their character or anything aout them.

[Amigo]

Unfortunately Guy, the EU and its yumin rites laws would never allow us to save taxpayers money in that way.
In fact I was reading just yesterday that a murderer who killed an elderly couple in cold blood has won a court case against the prison service, so that they now have to address him as "Mr Gunner", as he was apparently not being shown enough respect by the warders.

Ridiculous is'nt it? How much legal aid could we have saved by slapping him across the chops & telling him to keep digging pointless trenches over & over again? In 1981 i had to do that for minor offences in HMDC Haslar, Gosport.
    How things change!