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[geoffr70]

Bloody hell how pedantic!!

If you're talking about me making a typo!! Either I missed an 'O' off the end of 'to' to turn it into a 'too', or a 'me' off the end of the sentence. I can't remember how I intended to end the sentence, but it doesn't change what I was trying to say.

You still 'think' I'm saying that; it's written down in plain English. I'm not repeating myself again.

Whatever anyone thinks of the police is irrelevant. If anyone appears to threaten the people who maintain law and order in our land, they should expect a robust response.

I take it that my interpretation is correct then ? 
You are correct, what you wrote doesn't change what you ment to say, but it certainly affects how others interpret it. (or fail to  ).

Quite agreed on a 'robust response', but you have to admit that the officer has done the force no favours at all.

Well if you tell me what interpretation you ment, I'd be able to answer, but as said I'm not repeating myself again. Especially when you have acknowledged what I was saying, therefore contradicting yourself.

If others can't interpret plain english that's their concern, not mine, but as said, my typo didn't change the meaning, so you can't say you couldn't interpret it right.

As for the copper concerned not doing his force any favours, that is not the slightest bit relevant. It's not about doing favours or dis-favours. When it is fashionable for the public who think they know it all and who have become law graduates all of a sudden, to slate the government and the police for doing their job, we end up with a non situation like this

[TheBoy]

the way the media constantly slate the authorities make the authorities job nigh on impossible.

Anything not done perfectly is dealt with harshly.

The 'mob', at worse, spend a night in the cells, then giving a warning.


I think its biased to much against the Police - though I will agree that its healthy for the Police to have questions asked of them if they have grosely overstepped the mark (but within the context of what happened on the day).

NO Police officer should be getting injured just doing their job. No protester should be allowed to harm anybody, or damage public or private property.

[TheBoy]

And this is beginning to get personal - play nicely, or the debate will end.

[Amigo]

I heard all this earlier on LBC radio & initially i had sympathy for Jody. Dragging anyone out of a wheelchair is beyond reproach but as the interview went on it did'nt take long to see despite his disability & speech he is a trouble maker with a huge chip on his shoulder. He's not a student but his younger brother might want to be? One girl pointed out that she would love the deal new uni's are being offered as she's just graduated. Another 23 yr old student said of todays 3000 police on standby how proud he was of draining the police resources. Well thanks for that as i & most of the rest of us pay for it you spotty little winker, why are you still a student @ 23? Hardly helps your cause. Jody in the chair may have told the police he had a weapon even though he did'nt. He must've said something & after listening to him today it woulld'nt surprise me in the least.
    TBH i'm sick to the back teeth of so called radical protesters, even the peaceful ones are getting a good deal uni wise but i hate the hunt, veal....all of them. Sometimes things happen you don't like. Tough titty, get over it & find something more constructive to do. The country is sick to the back teeth of the fricking lot of you wasters.

[geoffr70]

I'm in Amigos corner

[Turk]

Can Turk and CEM enlighten us as to their opinions on the police sustaining injuries, the criminal damage being caused and whether or not they support or condemn any of the violence in these protests? Also, what would you have done to a protestor who defaces or disrespects a war monument in anyway?

We are discussing the actions of a police officer who ran past another officer, already calmly aproaching the issue, in order to tip a disabled person from their wheelchair.
Let's stick to the topic folks. It's all too easy for a thread to go off on a totally different subject 

All the 'other topics' mentioned should be dealt with to the full extent of the law. Acting like a 'uniformed thug' is not going to help.

[Amigo]

Can Turk and CEM enlighten us as to their opinions on the police sustaining injuries, the criminal damage being caused and whether or not they support or condemn any of the violence in these protests? Also, what would you have done to a protestor who defaces or disrespects a war monument in anyway?

We are discussing the actions of a police officer who ran past another officer, already calmly aproaching the issue, in order to tip a disabled person from their wheelchair.
Let's to stick to the topic folks. It's all too easy for a thread to go off on a totally different subject 

All the 'other topics' mentioned should be dealt with to the full extent of the law. Acting like a 'uniformed thug' is not going to help.

My comment is in no way off topic, how clear can i make it?

[geoffr70]

Can Turk and CEM enlighten us as to their opinions on the police sustaining injuries, the criminal damage being caused and whether or not they support or condemn any of the violence in these protests? Also, what would you have done to a protestor who defaces or disrespects a war monument in anyway?

We are discussing the actions of a police officer who ran past another officer, already calmly aproaching the issue, in order to tip a disabled person from their wheelchair.
Let's to stick to the topic folks. It's all too easy for a thread to go off on a totally different subject 

All the 'other topics' mentioned should be dealt with to the full extent of the law. Acting like a 'uniformed thug' is not going to help.

We are sticking to the topic and my questions are relevant. I think you don't want to answer the questions, and I know why. You are conveniently saying it's off topic because you don't want to answer the questions.

As for you saying 'acting like a uniformed thug is not going to help'

Well nor is making broad sweeping statements about people. There is good and bad everywhere.

[cem_devecioglu]

Can Turk and CEM enlighten us as to their opinions on the police sustaining injuries, the criminal damage being caused and whether or not they support or condemn any of the violence in these protests? Also, what would you have done to a protestor who defaces or disrespects a war monument in anyway?

We are discussing the actions of a police officer who ran past another officer, already calmly aproaching the issue, in order to tip a disabled person from their wheelchair.
Let's to stick to the topic folks. It's all too easy for a thread to go off on a totally different subject 

All the 'other topics' mentioned should be dealt with to the full extent of the law. Acting like a 'uniformed thug' is not going to help.

yep.. one thing is definite, you cant solve the problems in community  by breaking heads, the people is there because they have one problem..
you are there to keep the law and order, not for the reason to break it..

[geoffr70]

Can Turk and CEM enlighten us as to their opinions on the police sustaining injuries, the criminal damage being caused and whether or not they support or condemn any of the violence in these protests? Also, what would you have done to a protestor who defaces or disrespects a war monument in anyway?

We are discussing the actions of a police officer who ran past another officer, already calmly aproaching the issue, in order to tip a disabled person from their wheelchair.
Let's to stick to the topic folks. It's all too easy for a thread to go off on a totally different subject 

All the 'other topics' mentioned should be dealt with to the full extent of the law. Acting like a 'uniformed thug' is not going to help.

yep.. one thing is definite, you cant solve the problems in community  by breaking heads, the people is there because they have one problem..
you are there to keep the law and order, not for the reason to break it..

Well then tell the rioting students that! They have committed all these acts of violence and criminal damage.

Do you think if the police asked the protestors nicely: "Please don't do that?" they would stop? I don't think so.

It seems you think it's ok for the students and protestors to kick off, but not ok for the police to emply reasonable measures to control them.

[Turk]

Can Turk and CEM enlighten us as to their opinions on the police sustaining injuries, the criminal damage being caused and whether or not they support or condemn any of the violence in these protests? Also, what would you have done to a protestor who defaces or disrespects a war monument in anyway?

We are discussing the actions of a police officer who ran past another officer, already calmly aproaching the issue, in order to tip a disabled person from their wheelchair.
Let's to stick to the topic folks. It's all too easy for a thread to go off on a totally different subject 

All the 'other topics' mentioned should be dealt with to the full extent of the law. Acting like a 'uniformed thug' is not going to help.

My comment is in no way off topic, how clear can i make it?

:-/ Other than the 'My comment is in no way off topic' you have no comment quoted above. 

[Vamps]

I heard all this earlier on LBC radio & initially i had sympathy for Jody. Dragging anyone out of a wheelchair is beyond reproach but as the interview went on it did'nt take long to see despite his disability & speech he is a trouble maker with a huge chip on his shoulder. He's not a student but his younger brother might want to be? One girl pointed out that she would love the deal new uni's are being offered as she's just graduated. Another 23 yr old student said of todays 3000 police on standby how proud he was of draining the police resources. Well thanks for that as i & most of the rest of us pay for it you spotty little winker, why are you still a student @ 23? Hardly helps your cause. Jody in the chair may have told the police he had a weapon even though he did'nt. He must've said something & after listening to him today it woulld'nt surprise me in the least.
    TBH i'm sick to the back teeth of so called radical protesters, even the peaceful ones are getting a good deal uni wise but i hate the hunt, veal....all of them. Sometimes things happen you don't like. Tough titty, get over it & find something more constructive to do. The country is sick to the back teeth of the fricking lot of you wasters.

  I was 39 when I went to Uni......

[Turk]

Can Turk and CEM enlighten us as to their opinions on the police sustaining injuries, the criminal damage being caused and whether or not they support or condemn any of the violence in these protests? Also, what would you have done to a protestor who defaces or disrespects a war monument in anyway?

We are discussing the actions of a police officer who ran past another officer, already calmly aproaching the issue, in order to tip a disabled person from their wheelchair.
Let's to stick to the topic folks. It's all too easy for a thread to go off on a totally different subject 

All the 'other topics' mentioned should be dealt with to the full extent of the law. Acting like a 'uniformed thug' is not going to help.

yep.. one thing is definite, you cant solve the problems in community  by breaking heads, the people is there because they have one problem..
you are there to keep the law and order, not for the reason to break it..

Well then tell the rioting students that! They have committed all these acts of violence and criminal damage.

Do you think if the police asked the protestors nicely: "Please don't do that?" they would stop? I don't think so.

It seems you think it's ok for the students and protestors to kick off, but not ok for the police to emply reasonable measures to control them.

Exactly, but running over to tip a disabled man, who apparently is known to the officer in question, from his wheelchair and dragging him across the road is not 'reasonable measures'.
One of the first things they would have to do is put him back in his chair anyway.

[geoffr70]

Can Turk and CEM enlighten us as to their opinions on the police sustaining injuries, the criminal damage being caused and whether or not they support or condemn any of the violence in these protests? Also, what would you have done to a protestor who defaces or disrespects a war monument in anyway?

We are discussing the actions of a police officer who ran past another officer, already calmly aproaching the issue, in order to tip a disabled person from their wheelchair.
Let's to stick to the topic folks. It's all too easy for a thread to go off on a totally different subject 

All the 'other topics' mentioned should be dealt with to the full extent of the law. Acting like a 'uniformed thug' is not going to help.

yep.. one thing is definite, you cant solve the problems in community  by breaking heads, the people is there because they have one problem..
you are there to keep the law and order, not for the reason to break it..

Well then tell the rioting students that! They have committed all these acts of violence and criminal damage.

Do you think if the police asked the protestors nicely: "Please don't do that?" they would stop? I don't think so.

It seems you think it's ok for the students and protestors to kick off, but not ok for the police to emply reasonable measures to control them.

Exactly, but running over to tip a disabled man, who apparently is known to the officer in question, from his wheelchair and dragging him across the road is not 'reasonable measures'.
One of the first things they would have to do is put him back in his chair anyway.

Not if the chair won't fit in the back of the van.

How do you know what reasonble is in the circumstances? Only the copper knows that.

[Amigo]

Can Turk and CEM enlighten us as to their opinions on the police sustaining injuries, the criminal damage being caused and whether or not they support or condemn any of the violence in these protests? Also, what would you have done to a protestor who defaces or disrespects a war monument in anyway?

We are discussing the actions of a police officer who ran past another officer, already calmly aproaching the issue, in order to tip a disabled person from their wheelchair.
Let's to stick to the topic folks. It's all too easy for a thread to go off on a totally different subject 

All the 'other topics' mentioned should be dealt with to the full extent of the law. Acting like a 'uniformed thug' is not going to help.

My comment is in no way off topic, how clear can i make it?

:-/ Other than the 'My comment is in no way off topic' you have no comment quoted above. 

I thought i made myself quite clear but if you insist....I'm sick to death of paying the police (not thier fault) to deal with a bunch of ungrateful miscreants who should be studying or attending lectures but instead in thier misguided beliefs keep our police from catching paedophiles, rapists & the like.
    What matters most to you?