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Olympia5776

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Re: Heating oil
« Reply #15 on: 13 December 2010, 17:33:15 »

I read an interesting article on this very subject in Saturdays Telegraph ( still read it over here I'm afraid )
It prompted me to ask a local who supplies the same heating oil what the price was here and he said 75 cents a litre ( 63 p ) and about to rise again. LPG went up today also .
The recent budget put 4 c on a litre of unleaded taking it up to 142 c (£1 19 p )  in our local station.
Isn't it interesting that the price of these items  always rises just before the demand increases .
We're certainly being shafted by the oil companies and government of the day.
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Re: Heating oil
« Reply #16 on: 13 December 2010, 19:39:10 »

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My dad is in a similar predicament. He's joined some local syndicate who wait until they can order a few tens of thousands of litres then go for the lowest bid. Makes it a lot cheaper but a bit more planning required.

Kevin

Very similar approach to what a mate of mine does. He lives in a small village where theres no mains gas.
I believe theres an agreement with an oil supplier.....who drives thro the village every couple of months and checks everyones tanks.....if he can get 500L or more in them then he tops them up....and gives discount for supplying a lot more than an individual tank  :)

Maybe you, Opti, could get neighbours interested in doing this if a supplier would give discount for bulk  :y
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« Reply #17 on: 13 December 2010, 19:50:39 »

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I`m always on the fiscal knife-edge, so I have to go and collect my Kerosene using jerry cans (100 litres at a time) at a filling station about 10 miles away.....up until the middle of the recent heavy snow-falls, the price was 53.7 ppl....then, he ran low and had to have a restocking delivery at which point the price went upto 78.9 ppl :o

'Somebody' is making MASSIVE profits and I know it`s not the garage chap as he makes just 1 ppl. :-/

....and I'm sure we all know who that is - the oil companies and bloody government, oh and not forgetting the additional millions for the oil sheik's! >:(
As usual, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.


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Re: Heating oil
« Reply #18 on: 14 December 2010, 00:05:29 »

Opti, Heating oil is one of the biggest daily movers on the stock markets.  You would be better to find some accurate charts and follow the priceing offer a 12 month period and also check the last 5 years.

Then armed with the charts buy your fuel when the prices are low rather than wait till you run low.  I say this hoping that the fuel standing unused for months on end wont have any issues.

Prices will have risen due the the snow over the last 2 weeks.  Allways going to lose out to the sharks taking advantage of the supply and demand situation.  You want it now in bulk you have to pay thier prices, when no one want to refill they are forced to start competing again.
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Re: Heating oil
« Reply #19 on: 18 December 2010, 00:06:29 »

"The Office of Fair Trading announced that it was monitoring allegations of price fixing among suppliers, as the average cost of a litre of oil leapt to more than 70p from just over 40p a month ago."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/8199110/Millions-facing-fuel-rationing-over-Christmas-as-heating-oil-runs-low.html
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Re: Heating oil
« Reply #20 on: 18 December 2010, 00:39:29 »

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Sad news indeed Opti. [smiley=thumbdown.gif]

I brimmed by 2.5k tank with 1200 litres at 45ppl back in October.

Price now stands (15 minutes ago) at 51.5ppl.


Why such a difference  I wonder? ....Zulu...


I couldn't begin to work it out O as, if I went to buy another 47Kg refill of propane, I'd be paying £71 for the honour against your much lower figure.

How much :o :o I paid £39 in November for a Calor one, and that was from the caravan site ::) and there is a company, flo gas? is even cheaper.....
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Re: Heating oil
« Reply #21 on: 18 December 2010, 11:42:16 »

the price is unbelievably volatile, and it is profiteering by oil companies (rather than the suppliers) but thats what happens in a free market controlled utterly by greed  :y

"greed is good" Gordon the Gekko  :o

"Gordon is a moron" Jilted John  ;D
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« Reply #22 on: 18 December 2010, 11:49:40 »

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Sad news indeed Opti. [smiley=thumbdown.gif]

I brimmed by 2.5k tank with 1200 litres at 45ppl back in October.

Price now stands (15 minutes ago) at 51.5ppl.


Why such a difference  I wonder? ....Zulu...


I couldn't begin to work it out O as, if I went to buy another 47Kg refill of propane, I'd be paying £71 for the honour against your much lower figure.

How much :o :o I paid £39 in November for a Calor one, and that was from the caravan site ::) and there is a company, flo gas? is even cheaper.....


my mums just paid £74  for 2 bottles of calor gas.
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« Reply #23 on: 18 December 2010, 11:51:53 »

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the price is unbelievably volatile, and it is profiteering by oil companies (rather than the suppliers) but thats what happens in a free market controlled utterly by greed  :y

"greed is good" Gordon the Gekko  :o

"Gordon is a moron" Jilted John  ;D


It's the price fixing that is the problem, not the free market. Any form of cartel is anti-enterprise. Besides which, in some remote areas, there is very little competition as there are so few suppliers, so it's not representative of a free market. 
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« Reply #24 on: 18 December 2010, 12:23:07 »

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the price is unbelievably volatile, and it is profiteering by oil companies (rather than the suppliers) but thats what happens in a free market controlled utterly by greed  :y

"greed is good" Gordon the Gekko  :o

"Gordon is a moron" Jilted John  ;D


..............and property ownership is theft  Karl Marx :P :P
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« Reply #25 on: 18 December 2010, 12:31:58 »

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the price is unbelievably volatile, and it is profiteering by oil companies (rather than the suppliers) but thats what happens in a free market controlled utterly by greed  :y

"greed is good" Gordon the Gekko  :o

"Gordon is a moron" Jilted John  ;D


It's the price fixing that is the problem, not the free market. Any form of cartel is anti-enterprise. Besides which, in some remote areas, there is very little competition as there are so few suppliers, so it's not representative of a free market. 

true Nick, good point  :y
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Re: Heating oil
« Reply #26 on: 18 December 2010, 12:42:05 »

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the price is unbelievably volatile, and it is profiteering by oil companies (rather than the suppliers) but thats what happens in a free market controlled utterly by greed  :y

"greed is good" Gordon the Gekko  :o

"Gordon is a moron" Jilted John  ;D


..............and property ownership is theft  Karl Marx :P :P

"The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. " Groucho Marx  :y
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Re: Heating oil
« Reply #27 on: 18 December 2010, 12:42:47 »

china seems to be getting it cheap enough.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/lt_wikileaks_venezuela_oil
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« Reply #28 on: 18 December 2010, 14:01:53 »

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the price is unbelievably volatile, and it is profiteering by oil companies (rather than the suppliers) but thats what happens in a free market controlled utterly by greed  :y

"greed is good" Gordon the Gekko  :o

"Gordon is a moron" Jilted John  ;D


..............and property ownership is theft  Karl Marx :P :P


I could never work this one out - theft from whom?
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Re: Heating oil
« Reply #29 on: 18 December 2010, 15:06:58 »

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the price is unbelievably volatile, and it is profiteering by oil companies (rather than the suppliers) but thats what happens in a free market controlled utterly by greed  :y

"greed is good" Gordon the Gekko  :o

"Gordon is a moron" Jilted John  ;D


..............and property ownership is theft  Karl Marx :P :P


I could never work this one out - theft from whom?

everyone  :y
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