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Re: Beating the VAT increase
« Reply #30 on: 04 January 2011, 18:10:56 »
It's poundland I feel sorry for. ;D
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« Reply #31 on: 04 January 2011, 18:12:13 »
they will just have to rename themselves 1.02p land
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« Reply #32 on: 04 January 2011, 18:33:46 »
Personally I dont agree with the rise in VAT. I believe they should be cutting taxation in order to generate disposable income and therefore stimulate spending.
This Tory party is the most left wing version we have ever seen though, so expect more stupidity and Govt. by gimmick to come.
The spending cuts are largely a myth in many respects. Govt borrowing hit a new record last month, and even in the medium term they are only aiming to reduce the rate of increase in spending rather than actual spending.
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Re: Beating the VAT increase
« Reply #33 on: 04 January 2011, 19:05:34 »
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Personally I dont agree with the rise in VAT. I believe they should be cutting taxation in order to generate disposable income and therefore stimulate spending.
This Tory party is the most left wing version we have ever seen though, so expect more stupidity and Govt. by gimmick to come.The spending cuts are largely a myth in many respects. Govt borrowing hit a new record last month, and even in the medium term they are only aiming to reduce the rate of increase in spending rather than actual spending.

Yes and more lib dem dirty trick exposures.
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Re: Beating the VAT increase
« Reply #34 on: 04 January 2011, 19:18:50 »
I think they are doing ok, the alternatives of running up yet more debts are unthinkable.

The stupid levels of cash spent by the last useless lot in order to get the votes of those who dont understand economics now needs to be sorted out and that means tax rises and cost cutting.....you cant live beyond your means forever.
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« Reply #35 on: 04 January 2011, 19:21:33 »
I'm past caring. I don't drink or smoke. My car is very frugal. I haven't bought any clothes since 2003. break 'em all.
I'll turn the lights off and sit in an overcoat before I'll let the b@st@rds grind me down. ;D
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« Reply #36 on: 04 January 2011, 19:32:33 »
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I think they are doing ok, the alternatives of running up yet more debts are unthinkable.

The stupid levels of cash spent by the last useless lot in order to get the votes of those who dont understand economics now needs to be sorted out and that means tax rises and cost cutting.....you cant live beyond your means forever.
The fact is they have done almost no cost cutting, they are currently borrowing more than the last lot did.
I can see the argument about tax rises, but we are already being taxed till the pips squeak.
I believe that if they had the guts to cut the taxes of people in work - particularily higher middle income earners - it would do more to stimulate the economy ( and produce more tax revenue as a result) than simply taking the lazy socialist route of taking more of peoples earnings from them. ;)
The fact is that they are sh1t scared of being thought off as right wing.
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« Reply #37 on: 04 January 2011, 20:02:48 »
Cutting taxes wont help, all it does is encourage spending on luxury items none of which are made here so its cash out the countries gates, it would not stimulate uk jobs. The proposed NI increase was totaly stupid as that would only affect Uk companies so the VAT approach is the best of the bad options.

Taxes are to low, VAT for one is still only average when compared to the euro zone.

The cuts will come and have already started but, taxes MUST also go up.

They cant counter the deficit created by the last muppets in such a short time, they need to stop it getting worse and start chipping away at it.

They cant cut education and health becasue the last bucnh of gits committed so much to Private-Public financing that if we did it would have an adverse affect.
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« Reply #38 on: 04 January 2011, 20:04:29 »
had to go to the supermarket yerterday for a few bits for work I thought it would be a breeze after peoples food spending excesses on Christmas and new year, WRONG It was grid lock  :o I couldn't believe how many peoples trollies were stuffed to the gunnels with food. I would have thought that peoples food cupboards would have been creaking with products from the Xmas overshop. Then it ocurred to me, how many people actually know that food is zero rated as fer as VAT is concerned? My thoughts are that this behaviour is typical of the greed of a lot of modern day society. :(
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« Reply #39 on: 04 January 2011, 20:27:51 »
You all have your points to make, fair go but much as i hate to admit it ...oh god i really hate to admit it....really but i ....oh no....agree with STMO....there i said it!!!! I've reached the "what the hell" train of thought more than once regarding which party gets elected & how the balls it up, find another way of making us pay for said mess while blaming it on the previous party...see a pattern emerging? Like Steve i've developed the approach of, i'll still do my little job & live in my little house & simply ignore current affairs.
     Nothing they do will have any real effect on me so let 'em get on with it. It hardly merits discussion in my book. Guy. :y
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Re: Beating the VAT increase
« Reply #40 on: 05 January 2011, 07:45:29 »
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I think they are doing ok, the alternatives of running up yet more debts are unthinkable.

The stupid levels of cash spent by the last useless lot in order to get the votes of those who dont understand economics now needs to be sorted out and that means tax rises and cost cutting.....you cant live beyond your means forever.

stupid levels of cash that Cameron stated publicly he would match pound for pound when it suited him in opposition - watch this guy like a hawk - the cuts are hugely unwise and are more about the tories obsession with wanting to reduce the public sector than sound fiscal policy  :o


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Re: Beating the VAT increase
« Reply #41 on: 05 January 2011, 07:49:44 »
what about the 99p shop,,,
who is going to do a dell boy, no income tax no v.a.t no money back no guarentee. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Beating the VAT increase
« Reply #42 on: 05 January 2011, 07:52:31 »
we pay they take, we pay agian they lose it, shouldnt they be members of gamblers anonymous or are they and its not working (anonymous)....
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« Reply #43 on: 05 January 2011, 08:07:35 »
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I think they are doing ok, the alternatives of running up yet more debts are unthinkable.

The stupid levels of cash spent by the last useless lot in order to get the votes of those who dont understand economics now needs to be sorted out and that means tax rises and cost cutting.....you cant live beyond your means forever.

stupid levels of cash that Cameron stated publicly he would match pound for pound when it suited him in opposition - watch this guy like a hawk - the cuts are hugely unwise and are more about the tories obsession with wanting to reduce the public sector than sound fiscal policy  :o



Basics, the piublic sector is bigger than we can afford.

Either it has to get smaller or we have to pay more.
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