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[Varche]

Hmmmmm, spend 100 Billion dollars on a tunnel between two of the least populated areas on earth.

Great idea!

157 billion actual outurn as the 100 billion was a low round figure to get everyone tempted.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Hmmmmm, spend 100 Billion dollars on a tunnel between two of the least populated areas on earth.

Great idea!

But that Mark would just be one section of the international system.   

It is always a mistake with the railway system to do what Beeching / Marple's did.  Branch lines fed the main lines like a stream feeds a river.  Without the branch line, the main line flow is reduced and overall profitability, along with customer service, is lost.  All parts of the 21st century system, even the quietest sections, would feed the main international flow of freight and passenger traffic.

[Dishevelled Den]

  It is always a mistake with the railway system to do what Beeching / Marple's did.  Branch lines fed the main lines like a stream feeds a river.  Without the branch line, the main line flow is reduced and overall profitability, along with customer service, is lost.  All parts of the 21st century system, even the quietest sections, would feed the main international flow of freight and passenger traffic.

Exactly Lizzie, these lines are the first link in the chain of rail transport.  We should be making it easier for people to expolit public transport not more difficult by expecting them to jump through hoops to get themselves to major transport hubs.

[Marks DTM Calib]

Hmmmmm, spend 100 Billion dollars on a tunnel between two of the least populated areas on earth.

Great idea!

But that Mark would just be one section of the international system.   

It is always a mistake with the railway system to do what Beeching / Marple's did.  Branch lines fed the main lines like a stream feeds a river.  Without the branch line, the main line flow is reduced and overall profitability, along with customer service, is lost.  All parts of the 21st century system, even the quietest sections, would feed the main international flow of freight and passenger traffic.

Not sure where the relevance is TBH.

The key issues I see are

a) A bloody huge tunnel which will be an engineering challenge of the greatest order.

b) It links two mega low population areas.

c) Connecting links, particularly on the Alaska side, will be a nightmare!

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Hmmmmm, spend 100 Billion dollars on a tunnel between two of the least populated areas on earth.

Great idea!

But that Mark would just be one section of the international system.   

It is always a mistake with the railway system to do what Beeching / Marple's did.  Branch lines fed the main lines like a stream feeds a river.  Without the branch line, the main line flow is reduced and overall profitability, along with customer service, is lost.  All parts of the 21st century system, even the quietest sections, would feed the main international flow of freight and passenger traffic.

Not sure where the relevance is TBH.

The key issues I see are

a) A bloody huge tunnel which will be an engineering challenge of the greatest order.

b) It links two mega low population areas.

c) Connecting links, particularly on the Alaska side, will be a nightmare!

Did challenges like this stop the great Victorian railway engineers thinking outside the box?

Do contempary engineers step back from building "impossible" bridges, tunnels, and very high rise buildings?

It can all be done, and by the second half of the this century they will be able to do a lot more.

The great railway lines of the world often travel though sparsley populated areas, but do link major communities at either end.  The question is do we want a super inter-continental railway system or not?  Of course I will say yes for the reasons I have previously outlined

[tunnie]

It won't work, did they not learn from the failure of the Euro tunnel? Its still not making money. Its still massively in debt, Eurostar is making money, but that's a separate company that pay to use the rail. Freight side of business is not doing well.

Ferry traffic demand between Dover-Calais is higher than ever, I prefer the Ferry. Being in the tunnel was like being in the London Tube, but in your car.

Roads & Trucks is where freight will remain, its far more flexible for pickups and drop-offs to businesses.

A cross continental rail system is flawed in my opinion, it won't work, too many regulations and red tape in each country. Look at the Orient Express, that uses a different loco & crew for each country.