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[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Whatever happened to common sense.......here we have a 23 year old woman and a 25 year old  man trying to buy a kitchen knife FFS....and not being allowed to.....It's just crazy......

At eleven..years old a group of us would go to the local shop and buy a pack of 20 ciggies between us.....We were four feet nothing and dressed in school uniform.......We had no problems getting served.

I've heard of men in their mid thirties unable to buy alcohol because they did not have  I.D to prove they were 18.......Madness ...utter madness....

[tidla]

clue is in the name "check out girl". probably been insrtucted an hour before on store policy.

had the same thing trying to buy more that three lots of paracetamol products in one go. the check out divider solved the problem.

i now have a till check out system.

young lass= speed.

more mature= a bit slower but if you have an age check item always a good choice.

as time is money i would have chose another till and told the the other half to disappear.

Had frequent arguments over this... Buying 2 packs of Paracetemol and 2 packs of Ibuprofen and getting refused

Then you can go into Boots (as we did recently) asking for Soluble Paracetemol and were told we could only buy it in a box of 100

I had that, Tesco till system refused any more than 2 packs in one transaction. Just needed to pay and then start a new transaction to get around it 

Refused them on a second transaction to me, or SWMBO, of MIL/FIL who were with me

Might have updated the firmware since my days!

its not same any more, with my reduce gun I could set anything to £0.05p, it was not tied into main system (unlike now) so just went through as "other" under items reduced.

I ate well at lunch time 

they dont taste that nice and i dont thing too many are good for you.






(yes i do know what you mean)

[hoofing it]

I know that knife crime is a very serious issue and I fully condone whatever measures are necessary to curb this type of crime BUT....My daughter has just moved in to a new flat. She went to her local Sainsbury's today with her boyfriend to buy some kitchen bits and pieces - first flat she needed everything - including a cheese knife.

At the checkout the girl asked my daughter for ID (for the knife) which she produced (she's 23). The checkout girl also then asked her boyfriend for ID (he's 25) but he didn't have any. They refused to sell the knife to my daughter because in their opinion she may have been buying it for her boyfriend - presumably to use maliciously - I would have thought the conveyor full of other kitchen utensils would have been a bit of a clue as to their real intentions. 

Now well up for an argument she protested to the manager to no avail and she left the shop empty handed and an hour of shopping time wasted. The managers parting comment was that if Sainburys sold her the knife and her boyfriend was under age she could sue them!!!!

I can't wait to waste a couple of hours tomorrow doing the biggest shop I can, loading up the converyor then walking away when my teenage son can't produce appropriate ID - which I demand they ask for - because I've put some lagers on the counter. I might even do it more than once just to really p*ss them off.[/quote]
Get the wife to go as well and fill a trolly then walk out

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I know that knife crime is a very serious issue and I fully condone whatever measures are necessary to curb this type of crime BUT....My daughter has just moved in to a new flat. She went to her local Sainsbury's today with her boyfriend to buy some kitchen bits and pieces - first flat she needed everything - including a cheese knife.

At the checkout the girl asked my daughter for ID (for the knife) which she produced (she's 23). The checkout girl also then asked her boyfriend for ID (he's 25) but he didn't have any. They refused to sell the knife to my daughter because in their opinion she may have been buying it for her boyfriend - presumably to use maliciously - I would have thought the conveyor full of other kitchen utensils would have been a bit of a clue as to their real intentions. 

Now well up for an argument she protested to the manager to no avail and she left the shop empty handed and an hour of shopping time wasted. The managers parting comment was that if Sainburys sold her the knife and her boyfriend was under age she could sue them!!!!

I can't wait to waste a couple of hours tomorrow doing the biggest shop I can, loading up the converyor then walking away when my teenage son can't produce appropriate ID - which I demand they ask for - because I've put some lagers on the counter. I might even do it more than once just to really p*ss them off.

Check out girls are not the moral guardians of the general public......The lady in question simply has to satisfy herself that the person buying the knife is 18 years or over......It is not for them to make moral judgements.......

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I know that knife crime is a very serious issue and I fully condone whatever measures are necessary to curb this type of crime BUT....My daughter has just moved in to a new flat. She went to her local Sainsbury's today with her boyfriend to buy some kitchen bits and pieces - first flat she needed everything - including a cheese knife.

At the checkout the girl asked my daughter for ID (for the knife) which she produced (she's 23). The checkout girl also then asked her boyfriend for ID (he's 25) but he didn't have any. They refused to sell the knife to my daughter because in their opinion she may have been buying it for her boyfriend - presumably to use maliciously - I would have thought the conveyor full of other kitchen utensils would have been a bit of a clue as to their real intentions. 

Now well up for an argument she protested to the manager to no avail and she left the shop empty handed and an hour of shopping time wasted. The managers parting comment was that if Sainburys sold her the knife and her boyfriend was under age she could sue them!!!!

I can't wait to waste a couple of hours tomorrow doing the biggest shop I can, loading up the converyor then walking away when my teenage son can't produce appropriate ID - which I demand they ask for - because I've put some lagers on the counter. I might even do it more than once just to really p*ss them off.

Check out girls are not the moral guardians of the general public......The lady in question simply has to satisfy herself that the person buying the knife is 18 years or over......It is not for them to make moral judgements.......

Exactly Opti!

[tunnie]

I know that knife crime is a very serious issue and I fully condone whatever measures are necessary to curb this type of crime BUT....My daughter has just moved in to a new flat. She went to her local Sainsbury's today with her boyfriend to buy some kitchen bits and pieces - first flat she needed everything - including a cheese knife.

At the checkout the girl asked my daughter for ID (for the knife) which she produced (she's 23). The checkout girl also then asked her boyfriend for ID (he's 25) but he didn't have any. They refused to sell the knife to my daughter because in their opinion she may have been buying it for her boyfriend - presumably to use maliciously - I would have thought the conveyor full of other kitchen utensils would have been a bit of a clue as to their real intentions. 

Now well up for an argument she protested to the manager to no avail and she left the shop empty handed and an hour of shopping time wasted. The managers parting comment was that if Sainburys sold her the knife and her boyfriend was under age she could sue them!!!!

I can't wait to waste a couple of hours tomorrow doing the biggest shop I can, loading up the converyor then walking away when my teenage son can't produce appropriate ID - which I demand they ask for - because I've put some lagers on the counter. I might even do it more than once just to really p*ss them off.

Check out girls are not the moral guardians of the general public......The lady in question simply has to satisfy herself that the person buying the knife is 18 years or over......It is not for them to make moral judgements.......

Exactly Opti!

Wrong!!!

It is drilled into checkout staff, if in doubt reject. Moral judgement as fek all to do with it!!

If the person looks under 25, cannot product ID, refuse sale, no moral judgements involved here, simple rules.

If you are found to have sold drinks/booze/knifes to underage it was instant dismissal.

So why risk it?

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I know that knife crime is a very serious issue and I fully condone whatever measures are necessary to curb this type of crime BUT....My daughter has just moved in to a new flat. She went to her local Sainsbury's today with her boyfriend to buy some kitchen bits and pieces - first flat she needed everything - including a cheese knife.

At the checkout the girl asked my daughter for ID (for the knife) which she produced (she's 23). The checkout girl also then asked her boyfriend for ID (he's 25) but he didn't have any. They refused to sell the knife to my daughter because in their opinion she may have been buying it for her boyfriend - presumably to use maliciously - I would have thought the conveyor full of other kitchen utensils would have been a bit of a clue as to their real intentions. 

Now well up for an argument she protested to the manager to no avail and she left the shop empty handed and an hour of shopping time wasted. The managers parting comment was that if Sainburys sold her the knife and her boyfriend was under age she could sue them!!!!

I can't wait to waste a couple of hours tomorrow doing the biggest shop I can, loading up the converyor then walking away when my teenage son can't produce appropriate ID - which I demand they ask for - because I've put some lagers on the counter. I might even do it more than once just to really p*ss them off.

Check out girls are not the moral guardians of the general public......The lady in question simply has to satisfy herself that the person buying the knife is 18 years or over......It is not for them to make moral judgements.......

Exactly Opti!

It's common sense really Lizzie.......for example......a 50 year old man buys some alcohol with his 17 year old daughter present...........however....the girl on the till thinks the man may offer the girl a little tipple ...so refuses to serve the man.......NONE OF THEIR FU*KING BUSINESS......

[tunnie]

I know that knife crime is a very serious issue and I fully condone whatever measures are necessary to curb this type of crime BUT....My daughter has just moved in to a new flat. She went to her local Sainsbury's today with her boyfriend to buy some kitchen bits and pieces - first flat she needed everything - including a cheese knife.

At the checkout the girl asked my daughter for ID (for the knife) which she produced (she's 23). The checkout girl also then asked her boyfriend for ID (he's 25) but he didn't have any. They refused to sell the knife to my daughter because in their opinion she may have been buying it for her boyfriend - presumably to use maliciously - I would have thought the conveyor full of other kitchen utensils would have been a bit of a clue as to their real intentions. 

Now well up for an argument she protested to the manager to no avail and she left the shop empty handed and an hour of shopping time wasted. The managers parting comment was that if Sainburys sold her the knife and her boyfriend was under age she could sue them!!!!

I can't wait to waste a couple of hours tomorrow doing the biggest shop I can, loading up the converyor then walking away when my teenage son can't produce appropriate ID - which I demand they ask for - because I've put some lagers on the counter. I might even do it more than once just to really p*ss them off.

Check out girls are not the moral guardians of the general public......The lady in question simply has to satisfy herself that the person buying the knife is 18 years or over......It is not for them to make moral judgements.......

Exactly Opti!

It's common sense really Lizzie.......for example......a 50 year old man buys some alcohol with his 17 year old daughter present...........however....the girl on the till thinks the man may offer the girl a little tipple ...so refuses to serve the man.......NONE OF THEIR FU*KING BUSINESS......

Delightful way of putting it. Humm how about their job for starters?  Think thats their business? Yes it is. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I know that knife crime is a very serious issue and I fully condone whatever measures are necessary to curb this type of crime BUT....My daughter has just moved in to a new flat. She went to her local Sainsbury's today with her boyfriend to buy some kitchen bits and pieces - first flat she needed everything - including a cheese knife.

At the checkout the girl asked my daughter for ID (for the knife) which she produced (she's 23). The checkout girl also then asked her boyfriend for ID (he's 25) but he didn't have any. They refused to sell the knife to my daughter because in their opinion she may have been buying it for her boyfriend - presumably to use maliciously - I would have thought the conveyor full of other kitchen utensils would have been a bit of a clue as to their real intentions. 

Now well up for an argument she protested to the manager to no avail and she left the shop empty handed and an hour of shopping time wasted. The managers parting comment was that if Sainburys sold her the knife and her boyfriend was under age she could sue them!!!!

I can't wait to waste a couple of hours tomorrow doing the biggest shop I can, loading up the converyor then walking away when my teenage son can't produce appropriate ID - which I demand they ask for - because I've put some lagers on the counter. I might even do it more than once just to really p*ss them off.

Check out girls are not the moral guardians of the general public......The lady in question simply has to satisfy herself that the person buying the knife is 18 years or over......It is not for them to make moral judgements.......

Exactly Opti!

Wrong!!!

It is drilled into checkout staff, if in doubt reject. Moral judgement as blank all to do with it!!

If the person looks under 25, cannot product ID, refuse sale, no moral judgements involved here, simple rules.

If you are found to have sold drinks/booze/knifes to underage it was instant dismissal.

So why risk it?

Nope...you're wrong Tunnie..... The woman in question was 23 and had I.D to prove it.....She was not allowed to purchase the knife because the lady on the till thought she might give it to her boyfriend....THAT IS A MORAL JUDGEMENT...

[geoffr70]

Pretty soon all the robots who try to control and assimilate us will have us banned from coming out of our houses. The Equality and Diversity Brigade will ban us from talking to each other, the Health and Safety prefects will makes us suit up to wipe our own backsides, or charge us to employ an 'operative' to wipe our backsides for us. No wonder Britain is the uncompetitive mollycoddled laughing stock of the world!

I say vote UKIP!

[mrgreen]

that's the most rediculous thing i've heard in a while i mean lets be honest if a lad wants to get his hands on a knife surely it's not hard to go round to your mums and be away with one,  these measures don't  prevent knife crimes imo, as for the ibuprofen i used to stock up in england as you can't get generics over here only the mighty expensive, i would buy two packs through the checkout and then another two at the pharmacy at the end of the checkout!

[geoffr70]

that's the most rediculous thing i've heard in a while i mean lets be honest if a lad wants to get his hands on a knife surely it's not hard to go round to your mums and be away with one,  these measures don't  prevent knife crimes imo, as for the ibuprofen i used to stock up in england as you can't get generics over here only the mighty expensive, i would buy two packs through the checkout and then another two at the pharmacy at the end of the checkout!

I think the previous governments social policies have worsened this tbh

[tunnie]

Nope...you're wrong Tunnie..... The woman in question was 23 and had I.D to prove it.....She was not allowed to purchase the knife because the lady on the till thought she might give it to her boyfriend....THAT IS A MORAL JUDGEMENT...

Its the rules FFS, set by the supermarket, its the same for Cigs & Booze. Been around for years, ID for 18, checkout bod need to think they are 21+

But lets run with your issue with morals here.

When I worked at Tesco at 16, I thought I was earning good money, but there were single mums there, struggling to make a living on their hourly pay.

Do you think they would risk their job, their homes, their families to break a rule the supermarket set? Just so someone can get their knife!?

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I know that knife crime is a very serious issue and I fully condone whatever measures are necessary to curb this type of crime BUT....My daughter has just moved in to a new flat. She went to her local Sainsbury's today with her boyfriend to buy some kitchen bits and pieces - first flat she needed everything - including a cheese knife.

At the checkout the girl asked my daughter for ID (for the knife) which she produced (she's 23). The checkout girl also then asked her boyfriend for ID (he's 25) but he didn't have any. They refused to sell the knife to my daughter because in their opinion she may have been buying it for her boyfriend - presumably to use maliciously - I would have thought the conveyor full of other kitchen utensils would have been a bit of a clue as to their real intentions. 

Now well up for an argument she protested to the manager to no avail and she left the shop empty handed and an hour of shopping time wasted. The managers parting comment was that if Sainburys sold her the knife and her boyfriend was under age she could sue them!!!!

I can't wait to waste a couple of hours tomorrow doing the biggest shop I can, loading up the converyor then walking away when my teenage son can't produce appropriate ID - which I demand they ask for - because I've put some lagers on the counter. I might even do it more than once just to really p*ss them off.

Check out girls are not the moral guardians of the general public......The lady in question simply has to satisfy herself that the person buying the knife is 18 years or over......It is not for them to make moral judgements.......

Exactly Opti!

It's common sense really Lizzie.......for example......a 50 year old man buys some alcohol with his 17 year old daughter present...........however....the girl on the till thinks the man may offer the girl a little tipple ...so refuses to serve the man.......NONE OF THEIR FU*KING BUSINESS......

Delightful way of putting it. Humm how about their job for starters?  Think thats their business? Yes it is. 

Nope wrong again......It is insulting to suggest to a customer......I will not serve you alcohol because you look like the type of person who MAY give it to your underage children.......If that's not a moral judgement then I don't know what is.....

[Vamps]

....
I don't remember a meet or gathering we were at same place?  :-/ .....

York II 

Ohhhh, you should have come over when there was the 'split' I was setting up the tent in dark, before long had rather large gathering! IIC, Elite Pete, Capt Zok, most of the gang was there by end

I was there too, from what I remember it was quite entertaining.....

Tesco did not ask me today if I was going to give Miss Vamps my Whisky........no chance, it is all mine