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[Mysteryman]

These people are a waste of food and have no right to exist. As they are most likely not registered for council tax or on the electoral register, I doubt anyone would complain if they went 'missing'.

[russ0205]

just send the boys in with there good friend mr BAT (baseball),

[r1]

its okay to mock when you are okay,nice and warm with food in your belly and money in your pocket.
a long time ago i was down on my luck and i squatted in a  house that  had been empty for a long time and i got in through a broken back window.it had no gas or electric on and the house was empty.it was cold but it was better than being on the street.i managed to get some bits of furniture deliverd from one of the charity places.i also managed to get the
electric switched on so i could get some heat and hot water.as i could clean myself up and give a address i managed to get a job and get back on my feet.i was there for about six months, i didnt wreck the place,i didnt do drugs and didnt write graffity anywhere or use the place as a toilet.when i left the house was in slightly better condition than i found it.
i agree if its someones house its not right.
but before all you people condem me think how many times have you been asked for a bit of change from some one down on there luck and you walk on ,yet you might watch comic relief,see a disaster in another continant and but your hand in your pocket to help,yet when its on your doorstep you dont.
sometimes there is a bigger picture.

[Olympia5776]

its okay to mock when you are okay,nice and warm with food in your belly and money in your pocket.
a long time ago i was down on my luck and i squatted in a  house that  had been empty for a long time and i got in through a broken back window.it had no gas or electric on and the house was empty.it was cold but it was better than being on the street.i managed to get some bits of furniture deliverd from one of the charity places.i also managed to get the
electric switched on so i could get some heat and hot water.as i could clean myself up and give a address i managed to get a job and get back on my feet.i was there for about six months, i didnt wreck the place,i didnt do drugs and didnt write graffity anywhere or use the place as a toilet.when i left the house was in slightly better condition than i found it.
i agree if its someones house its not right.
but before all you people condem me think how many times have you been asked for a bit of change from some one down on there luck and you walk on ,yet you might watch comic relief,see a disaster in another continant and but your hand in your pocket to help,yet when its on your doorstep you dont.
sometimes there is a bigger picture.

I commend you on getting back on your feet and understand homeless people using houses that are and have been unoccupied for a lengthy period of  time but I cannot endorse the actions of these people .
They have literally stolen this mans house which was not unoccupied but merely empty whilst alterations were about to commence.
I think it is absolute madness that the legal system can become so parlysed and  to give rights to the squatters over the legitimate owner who now is forced to spend considerable sums of money to regain what is rightfully his.
One could be cynical and say that it must be in the interests of only those employed in the legal system to allow this absurd situation to exist and continue.

[Lazydocker]

but before all you people condem me think how many times have you been asked for a bit of change from some one down on there luck and you walk on ,yet you might watch comic relief,see a disaster in another continant and but your hand in your pocket to help,yet when its on your doorstep you dont.
sometimes there is a bigger picture.

I agree that there are far too many empty houses that could and should be legitimately used to house homeless people.

As to walking past... I never give money to someone homeless begging on the street because I don't want my money going towards "inappropriate" consumption

I will, however, take them into a cafe/McDonalds/Pub and give them a hot drink and something to eat if they choose to accept. I'll never forget the "homeless" person begging for money for "food" in London, early in the morning a few years ago... SWMBO and I had been for a picnic in Hyde Park the previous evening and had some sandwiches, crisps and other food left over (enough to feed us lunch as well TBH) but he just point blank refused and demanded money instead As you can imagine I told him to go home as he obviously wasn't genuinely "Hungry and Homeless" as I'd just offered him sufficient food for the day

As for Comic Relief... I don't often give as I already give a lot of time and money to charity But charities I choose to support

[bigegg]

just as a tidbit of info.
the reason that scotland's eviction laws are different to england are NOT because of scottish lawmakers.
They were created to make it easy for the (predominantly) *English* landlords to remove their scottish tenants.

[hotel21]

just as a tidbit of info.
the reason that scotland's eviction laws are different to england are NOT because of scottish lawmakers.
They were created to make it easy for the (predominantly) *English* landlords to remove their scottish tenants.

Is that the same reason why there is no law of trespass in Scotland (unless carrying a firearm or damaging growing crops) or that there is a clear right to roam policy, giving freedom of 'private' open space to the general masses?  Including the right to rough camp?

Sorry for the thread highjack slightly but, chit happens.... 

[Martin_1962]

its okay to mock when you are okay,nice and warm with food in your belly and money in your pocket.
a long time ago i was down on my luck and i squatted in a  house that  had been empty for a long time and i got in through a broken back window.it had no gas or electric on and the house was empty.it was cold but it was better than being on the street.i managed to get some bits of furniture deliverd from one of the charity places.i also managed to get the
electric switched on so i could get some heat and hot water.as i could clean myself up and give a address i managed to get a job and get back on my feet.i was there for about six months, i didnt wreck the place,i didnt do drugs and didnt write graffity anywhere or use the place as a toilet.when i left the house was in slightly better condition than i found it.
i agree if its someones house its not right.
but before all you people condem me think how many times have you been asked for a bit of change from some one down on there luck and you walk on ,yet you might watch comic relief,see a disaster in another continant and but your hand in your pocket to help,yet when its on your doorstep you dont.
sometimes there is a bigger picture.

1) You looked after the place

2) There was noone trying to move in

If the rightful owners wanted to move in I presume you would have moved on.

These as in first post are just scum stealing other peoples houses.

We do know the difference between down on luck and professional squatters

[Webby the Bear]

you prob dont want my big furry bear comment but youre all gonna get it anyway

i do sympathise with homeless people. they are effectively the chewed up 'n' spat out people of a capitalist and selfish society. however id rather be in a capatilist country than that of north koreas dictatorship communism.

sorry slightly off tangent but my point is this is bourne from capitalism. but its the only system that really works. its why we want an elite omega instead of a morris marina! 

cheers.

[bigegg]

dunno about the right to rough camp - I was under the impression that came under the same squatting laws.
certainly the "right to roam" laws date from the same times, when the gentry wanted to hunt wherever they liked without the locals getting uppity about it.

[hotel21]

dunno about the right to rough camp - I was under the impression that came under the same squatting laws.
certainly the "right to roam" laws date from the same times, when the gentry wanted to hunt wherever they liked without the locals getting uppity about it.

Dont think it goes back as far as pre union times but certainly ratified relatively recently...   

http://www.ramblers.org.uk/scotland/ourwork_scotland/access/walking-in-scotland2

[Martin_1962]

OK if I was single young and homeless and could not get on the ladder I would use a method which is quite practical.

Tent

I was once technically homeless as I had left a rental flat before I had finalised a mortgage.

Ended up staying in a room belonging to then fiances grandfather full of my stuff for two weeks.

[r1]

OK if I was single young and homeless and could not get on the ladder I would use a method which is quite practical.

Tent

I was once technically homeless as I had left a rental flat before I had finalised a mortgage.

Ended up staying in a room belonging to then fiances grandfather full of my stuff for two weeks.

im sorry but you are so wrong

where would you put a tent?
if you have a mates garden fine[then you not really homeless] but leave it out in the real world and
1 it will get nicked vanderlised /stolen.
2you cant but the tent down as a addresss
3its not secure
4 its cold
etc
and of course when you have no money a tent is unafordable.
and of course there are some people who like to attack the homeless,which is one of the reasons you try to be invisable
yes there are some people that are fakes and druggies
and have a drink proplem,also like in walks of life some homeless are not nice people.
but i can tell you when you are buy yourself its a cold loaney,scarey place.