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F1 - spoiler (and Buffs only)
« on: 26 March 2011, 14:34:29 »

The new season is upon us and already I can hear the hard core saying its boring, won't watch it and so on.

I shall be watching and I have got to say I am looking forward to it. I thought Vettel was just so good in practice. Ditto Hamilton even though he was a staggering 8 tenths behind him. I thought Buttons face when the likely lads told him that Hamilton's Kers wasn't working on his lap was priceless. ;D ;D ;D  I wonder where Kubica would have qualified if Petrov managed sixth?

Do you think the gimmicks (Kers, moveable wings etc) will make for better races?
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Re: F1 - spoiler (and Buffs only)
« Reply #1 on: 26 March 2011, 15:21:24 »

Think McLaren can be relieved that they are comfortably 2nd in the pecking order now, in pre season testing they were terrible when trying out new radical complicated exhausts.  Since their recent large upgrade to a more simple system they have been far more reliable and much improved performance. 

Ferrari are a bit of a mystery as they were strong in testing but seem to have struggled in Oz.

Red Bull on the other hand have looked immense continuing from last year and winter testing.  Stricter tests have been made to make sure wings don't flex but from the below photo comparison it's clear to see they have still managed to get around it.


It's also emerged that Red Bull might have a KERS system only for the start of the race, which would be a very clever interpretation of the rules.

All KERS equipped cars start with a fully charged battery for the start. So apparently RBR have installed a light weight battery 'KERS' system for the start of the race which only trickle charges rather than the large heavy rapid charging units other teams are using.  The benefit of this is that the rear tyres should last longer as they are less likely to lock up and flat spot which occurs with normal KERS units which affect brake bias.


Oh and the stewards have decided not to let HRT race tomorrow. Thankfully.
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Re: F1 - spoiler (and Buffs only)
« Reply #2 on: 26 March 2011, 15:52:29 »

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Think McLaren can be relieved that they are comfortably 2nd in the pecking order now, in pre season testing they were terrible when trying out new radical complicated exhausts.  Since their recent large upgrade to a more simple system they have been far more reliable and much improved performance. 

Ferrari are a bit of a mystery as they were strong in testing but seem to have struggled in Oz.

Red Bull on the other hand have looked immense continuing from last year and winter testing.  Stricter tests have been made to make sure wings don't flex but from the below photo comparison it's clear to see they have still managed to get around it.


It's also emerged that Red Bull might have a KERS system only for the start of the race, which would be a very clever interpretation of the rules.

All KERS equipped cars start with a fully charged battery for the start. So apparently RBR have installed a light weight battery 'KERS' system for the start of the race which only trickle charges rather than the large heavy rapid charging units other teams are using.  The benefit of this is that the rear tyres should last longer as they are less likely to lock up and flat spot which occurs with normal KERS units which affect brake bias.


Oh and the stewards have decided not to let HRT race tomorrow. Thankfully.
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Re: F1 - spoiler (and Buffs only)
« Reply #3 on: 26 March 2011, 18:17:28 »

Idont see the point of KERS if everyone has it, as Webber said earlier they all push the button at the same time, negating its effect.

What will be interesting is the new tyres designed to degrade quicker and the wing flap when you're within 1 sec - how fair or workable that will be remains to be seen - may need a bit of tweaking, and i'm glad they've ditched the ludicrousness of policing team orders - complete nonsense - you cant possibly enforce any "law" unless the team own up or give the game away.

looking forward to seeing how Di Resta gets on too - phenomenal driver who deserves a shot at f1  :y
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« Reply #4 on: 26 March 2011, 20:08:57 »

Irritating this, the boring tag. I fail to see how a moving object travelling at these sorts of speeds can possibly be boring. One car on track, I want to see it. I want the impression of speed, full on, in the face, flat out speed. It's there in bucket loads, it simply isn't conveyed by the tv coverage. Too many close ups. Zoom out. Pick up the wider angles of the whole corner. So rarely happens, but then to performance comes through on screen.
  But no. Let's have a close up of the pit garage, and the Mrs/wife/father/manager/clip board.  >:(

Yes let's have gadgets and gizmos, more performance, more more more.
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« Reply #5 on: 26 March 2011, 20:12:57 »

Its now got so contrived and Formula Disney that Ecclestone is planning to introduce sprinklers at every track so they can have a partial wet race at every race. Words fail me.
Yes Chris, the cars are mind numbingly fast, but the "racing" is for the most part tedious.
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« Reply #6 on: 26 March 2011, 20:38:45 »

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Irritating this, the boring tag. I fail to see how a moving object travelling at these sorts of speeds can possibly be boring. One car on track, I want to see it. I want the impression of speed, full on, in the face, flat out speed. It's there in bucket loads, it simply isn't conveyed by the tv coverage. Too many close ups. Zoom out. Pick up the wider angles of the whole corner. So rarely happens, but then to performance comes through on screen.
  But no. Let's have a close up of the pit garage, and the Mrs/wife/father/manager/clip board.  >:(

Yes let's have gadgets and gizmos, more performance, more more more.

Yup.

Watch this:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUhu13qp8Oc[/media]

Then this!
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seget3zOj_8[/media]
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« Reply #7 on: 26 March 2011, 21:47:17 »

Perfectly demonstrated. A different planet entirely. So many times I shout at the tv, keep the camera still and let the car go through the shot. And some of the onboard stuff is awesome.
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Re: F1 - spoiler (and Buffs only)
« Reply #8 on: 27 March 2011, 06:18:41 »

morning all - enjoy the race  :y
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« Reply #9 on: 27 March 2011, 09:18:54 »

thought it was ok for the frst race of the season, they are going to have to do something about the rear wing usage though, i thought it would be allowed anywhere they could use it, just on the straight is slly!!

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Re: F1 - spoiler (and Buffs only)
« Reply #10 on: 27 March 2011, 09:46:37 »

missed the first 7 bloomin laps, alarm didnt go off, didnt find it very exciting at all really. rear wing usage is a bit daft. & redbull not using kers at all. well it doesnt look like they need it anyway given there speed.
overall, yes not a bad start to the season. :)
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« Reply #11 on: 27 March 2011, 10:01:08 »

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thought it was ok for the frst race of the season, they are going to have to do something about the rear wing usage though, i thought it would be allowed anywhere they could use it, just on the straight is slly!!

i think they found in testing that removing downforce in the middle of a high speed bend was detrimental to keeping the car on the black stuff  :y
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« Reply #12 on: 27 March 2011, 10:03:27 »

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thought it was ok for the frst race of the season, they are going to have to do something about the rear wing usage though, i thought it would be allowed anywhere they could use it, just on the straight is slly!!

i think they found in testing that removing downforce in the middle of a high speed bend was detrimental to keeping the car on the black stuff  :y
as was found out in qually yesterday. :o
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« Reply #13 on: 27 March 2011, 14:31:28 »

Yep enjoyed that race. There is some good new talent around this year.

Didn't enjoy getting up so early especially as we are one hour ahead of Britain. 
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Re: F1 - spoiler (and Buffs only)
« Reply #14 on: 27 March 2011, 17:48:13 »

Well, before I could say it was boring, I thought I should watch it, esp with the new rules.  I even recorded it.

What a waste of 2 hours. Boring as hell. As with the last 15 or so year, no overtaking (and by definition, no racing). They said at the beginning that there is only 6% of overtaking compared to 20yrs ago.  That is a castasphoric step backwards.  When you have to have mandatory pitstops just for 'overtaking', they have got it all wrong.

Yes, speed is good to watch, but F1 may as well be time trials, as sure as shit is brown and smelly, F1 isn't racing.
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