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[Mysteryman]

.......Not getting a tax disc could see you hit with both charges. :-/

In my experience, not so.

Termed as 'two bites of the cherry'.  You cannot be done for failing to display something you do not have.   

So, if you don't have ins and MOT, you can't be done for failing to produce?

[hotel21]

I still see former colleagues going around with The Clampetts and having untaxed cars hooked away.

Strange thing is, in Scotland, clamping is unlawfull as regards parking offences etc.  VEL avoidance whilst on the public road, however, is fair game. 

[hotel21]

.......Not getting a tax disc could see you hit with both charges. :-/

In my experience, not so.

Termed as 'two bites of the cherry'.  You cannot be done for failing to display something you do not have.   

So, if you don't have ins and MOT, you can't be done for failing to produce?

Exactly.  You cannot produce what you do not have - but you will get nicked for failing to have it/them.... 

[Mysteryman]

.......Not getting a tax disc could see you hit with both charges. :-/

In my experience, not so.

Termed as 'two bites of the cherry'.  You cannot be done for failing to display something you do not have.   

So, if you don't have ins and MOT, you can't be done for failing to produce?

Exactly.  You cannot produce what you do not have - but you will get nicked for failing to have it/them.... 

In our local rag, where everyone from the mags court get a mench, it usually says 'No separate penalty for failing to produce'. It doesn't say that they were not charged with that offence.

[hotel21]

..... you can't be done for failing to produce?

Back in the day, an HO/RT/1 pad (a 7 day 'producer' pad) would last me a week or two when at my busiest.

Latterly, with the introduction of the availability of drivers records direct from the DVLA mainframe then the insurance databse on PNC and then the MOT database on PNC, the need for producers fell rapidly.

It was only high days and holidays that I needed them after that....

[hotel21]

In our local rag, where everyone from the mags court get a mench, it usually says 'No separate penalty for failing to produce'. It doesn't say that they were not charged with that offence.

Probably meaning that they were rattled for the no insurance/MOT/licence already...

[Danny]

Got in late tonight,missed the post office and my tax runs out tonight.I wont be able to get it till one tomorrow afternoon,do any of you guys know if i should risk going to work tomorrow.I Know its only one day but i suppose i can still be nicked.Thanks Moggy :-/

you've had 3 weeks or more to renew your car tax, why not do it sooner?

[Mysteryman]

Got in late tonight,missed the post office and my tax runs out tonight.I wont be able to get it till one tomorrow afternoon,do any of you guys know if i should risk going to work tomorrow.I Know its only one day but i suppose i can still be nicked.Thanks Moggy :-/

you've had 3 weeks or more to renew your car tax, why not do it sooner?

Sorry, your Worship.

[0795omega]

you should be allright so long as you do it tommorrow,how about take all your docs to re-new to work,then if police do pull at least you can show them you do intend to do it!! plus its only 1st tommorow not the 18th or something then you are taking the michael in there eyes.

[Danny]

Got in late tonight,missed the post office and my tax runs out tonight.I wont be able to get it till one tomorrow afternoon,do any of you guys know if i should risk going to work tomorrow.I Know its only one day but i suppose i can still be nicked.Thanks Moggy :-/

you've had 3 weeks or more to renew your car tax, why not do it sooner?

Sorry, your Worship.

only askin!!

[TheBoy]

You must always show a valid tax disc. The only exception is a five day grace if bought online before the tax run out. End of. Anybody claiming any other 'dangle berries' is talking from their windpipe.

This means the car must be permenently taxed.


With the massive take-up of ANPR, which can automatically, quickly check the tax status, you need to buy your tax online before midnight, or not use the car until you have the disc in your grubby mits.

[tidla]

The burning question is.. why the break dont they put car tax on the price of petrol? and sod all this dvla boll0cks :-?

it helps keep the crap of the streets. without the disc system somebodys old knacker could be parked outside your house for many a month. (until you and a mate drag it round the corner)

[TheBoy]

The burning question is.. why the break dont they put car tax on the price of petrol? and sod all this dvla boll0cks :-?

it helps keep the crap of the streets. without the disc system somebodys old knacker could be parked outside your house for many a month. (until you and a mate drag it round the corner)

Until recently it was a way of (almost) enforcing cars were MOT'd and insured.  Obviously less important now, but a significant funding source

[hotel21]

The burning question is.. why the break dont they put car tax on the price of petrol? and sod all this dvla boll0cks :-?

Couple of reasons, the major one being cost.  Last time I was involved in a DVLA/Police VEL consultation process it was explained that it would increase the cost of fuel (talking 5+ years ago now...) by a factor of 2.5 to 3 which would elevate todays circa £5 gallon to £12.50 or £15.  And thats without the Gov't adding anything else in the budget.

And, as said by others, it is one method of ensuring that insurance and car roadworthieness is correct at least once per year.

And you could bet that the incidence of fuel thefts would go through the roof virtually overnight!

And cut fuel lines, and screwdrivers through fuel tanks etc etc etc.....   

A Tax Disc is just a piece of paper in the window now due to the use of ANPR at roadsides as well as in enforcement vehicles.

[henryd]

You must always show a valid tax disc. The only exception is a five day grace if bought online before the tax run out. End of. Anybody claiming any other 'dangle berries' is talking from their windpipe.

This means the car must be permenently taxed.


With the massive take-up of ANPR, which can automatically, quickly check the tax status, you need to buy your tax online before midnight, or not use the car until you have the disc in your grubby mits.

if its done online before midnight the OP will save a fiver as well,disc prices go up with inflation rise april 1st