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[hotel21]

He again, 

Pick an easy target that rarely answers back - and be willingly heard...

How about kiddie fiddler child carers?  Don't they all do that?

How about sailors or male airline cabin staff?  Donthey all bat for the other team? 

Don't all male teachers ogle the teenage 5th formers?

Or do the female teachers all avoid trying their hand with nubile and able young adult males that just want to scatter seed at the earliest opperchancity?

You get the picture......

[skyblue]

So to some of you on here the Police are nothing but a bunch of self-abusers etc >: If  this is the case then please dont Call them when you or your family are in need of their help as Im sure  you wouldnt want to be called a two faced mucker  by  those who understand their daily fight to keep that  very thin blue line  (which is getting thinner by the day under the cost cutting  we are facing under Gov ) so that we can go about our daily business  feeling somewhat safe.


How many of us have had the job of going and knocking a door and telling  the person who opens it that someone wont ever be coming home to them.... Not  a job I would wanna do would YOU  :-?
The list could go on forever so Im sure we could allow them some slack as we dont know what that have just had to deal with.

 Any serving officers on here ... I say thank you for your efforts in keeping my family safe while Im away working through the night 

[Vamps]

So to some of you on here the Police are nothing but a bunch of self-abusers etc >: If  this is the case then please dont Call them when you or your family are in need of their help as Im sure  you wouldnt want to be called a two faced mucker  by  those who understand their daily fight to keep that  very thin blue line  (which is getting thinner by the day under the cost cutting  we are facing under Gov ) so that we can go about our daily business  feeling somewhat safe.


How many of us have had the job of going and knocking a door and telling  the person who opens it that someone wont ever be coming home to them.... Not  a job I would wanna do would YOU  :-?
The list could go on forever so Im sure we could allow them some slack as we dont know what that have just had to deal with.

 Any serving officers on here ... I say thank you for your efforts in keeping my family safe while Im away working through the night 

It is not just the Police that have to have such discussions.....

[rbrueford]

Ok, i used to be an ex part time plod (i know it was part time but i was heavily involved with full time duties due to being unemployed for a while lol) and was a fully qualified paramedic (with all relevant driving skills as well) and i have to say, ignorance is the biggest bain of ANY emergency service driver.
At the end of the day, there are bad eggs in all the services that abuse or drive otherwise in accordance to their driver training. They get a buzz from being able to push through the traffic (i would be a liar if i said i didnt when i was on the ambulances)
If i hear or see blues and twos, i shift over (either in the car or the 43ft, 7L, turbocharged shed) and let them do what they have to do.

[Ding a Ling]

No.1 = "knocking a door and telling  the person who opens it that someone wont ever be coming home"

No.2 = "Any serving officers on here ... I say thank you for your efforts in keeping my family safe while Im away working through the night" 

Ref:
No.1 As per 'Rikki Essex' previous, the subtle art of BAD NEWS is 'long gone' within the Modern Police Force............they appear to be way too busy.

No.2 The protection you ENJOY is through shear weight of number ie. the odd's are still in your favour, just! ............when you do eventually have need of The Force at home you will recieve a 'free giv a way' incident number and "the officer will be around sometime tomorrow"

My Nephew is a Sergeant in the Met !!!  so, my info is current.

Example No.1........London, Bounds Green LuL Station, north bound at approx 01:00hrs on a weekend night. I was overtaken by a Police Ford (lights & Music) who tripped the Gatso Camera and disappeared........500yds, I waited at the North Circular [A406] Junction lights.........up comes the long awaited GREENS, I turn left left to see... 50yds away the SAME Police Ford (NO lights & Music) in the petrol station on the left filling up !!!!

Example No.2........London, rear of Waterloo Station, Junction of Lower Marsh Rd.
08:30hrs midweek morning, again a small Police Ford (lights & Music) the wrong way up a 'one way st' hard right with some pace on up another 'one way' parked on a corner .....on double yellow's......two in plain clothes exit the car and walk into Gregg's the Bakers [who's gonna rob Greg's first thing in the morning?] then, out they come with bags of pastry's in hand !!!!! and bugger off.
I photographed the vehicle and plate, sent it to the Met Police, the nice lady inspector phoned and assured me that they were 'on the case' then 2weeks later a Sergeant phoned to say that the Officers Responcible did not fill out the vehicle logbook......so we've got no idea who they are !!!!!   If that was you or me the Fleet Manager Responcible would be in Magistrates Court before the end of the month...........

Quote:
From me "to whom it may concern - The Police have made thier own bad PR (imho) therefore, they are loosing public support..........one piece at a time"
Who was that poor news paper seller who got tangled-up in a demonstration (on his way home) in London, hit with a Batton (if i remember correctly) Died.........manslaughter charges?? Yes / No.............Mmmmmm.....

Regards,
                   Ding a Ling.

[Bionic]

the pratts in the ploddy car were though.

Typical of the know it all plods!

Rules and common courtesy do not apply to them

probably why we all near on hate them.

 excessive underworked for wages anyway.

W*ankers all, at least the greatest majority of them.....

could it be their tea was getting cold

or were they on their way to give some poor sod a kicking? 

Strictly as a matter of personal opinion... I can't remember the last time I saw so much generalised, biased bull$hit in one post

As H21, myself and many others have said on this forum countless times, the majority of plod are hard working dedicated people, who are actually passionate about what they do.

Accepted, there are a a few bad apples in the plod, as there are in every organisation without exception - but your post is, IMO, a world away from reality.

Have you, by any chance, had a bad experience with the law?

jamesv6cdx Thanx for your own opinion. It is not surprising that it is different from mine and probably the vast majority of others too but it does not bother me because we all have our own opinions in life. Just to answer your rather rude  and insulting question NO I have not had a run in with them myself but many of my friends have. I have been bullied by them though because they believe that they own the road. They can be as cheeky, arrogant, insulting insolent and foul mouthed as they like to you but will arrest you if you dare so much as to blink at them. But just to be fair I have also been treated respectfully by a small number of them too. I stress that they were in the minority though!!!!!!!!!
My respect for you has now been diminished because in my opinion you appear to have the same attitude as the bad plods.
At the end of the day they are no more important than the other blue light services and entered the job knowing its risks. I suspect also that many also enter the job because of the power over others it would give them! Just how many bad apples are there? More than you may think looking at the other members responses and comments.
Will there be any further abuse of power? Of course there will and we all know it.

[LJay]

the pratts in the ploddy car were though.

Typical of the know it all plods!

Rules and common courtesy do not apply to them

probably why we all near on hate them.

 excessive underworked for wages anyway.

W*ankers all, at least the greatest majority of them.....

could it be their tea was getting cold

or were they on their way to give some poor sod a kicking? 

Strictly as a matter of personal opinion... I can't remember the last time I saw so much generalised, biased bull$hit in one post

As H21, myself and many others have said on this forum countless times, the majority of plod are hard working dedicated people, who are actually passionate about what they do.

Accepted, there are a a few bad apples in the plod, as there are in every organisation without exception - but your post is, IMO, a world away from reality.

Have you, by any chance, had a bad experience with the law?

jamesv6cdx Thanx for your own opinion. It is not surprising that it is different from mine and probably the vast majority of others too but it does not bother me because we all have our own opinions in life. Just to answer your rather rude  and insulting question NO I have not had a run in with them myself but many of my friends have. I have been bullied by them though because they believe that they own the road. They can be as cheeky, arrogant, insulting insolent and foul mouthed as they like to you but will arrest you if you dare so much as to blink at them. But just to be fair I have also been treated respectfully by a small number of them too. I stress that they were in the minority though!!!!!!!!!
My respect for you has now been diminished because in my opinion you appear to have the same attitude as the bad plods.
At the end of the day they are no more important than the other blue light services and entered the job knowing its risks. I suspect also that many also enter the job because of the power over others it would give them! Just how many bad apples are there? More than you may think looking at the other members responses and comments.
Will there be any further abuse of power? Of course there will and we all know it.

Sorry James, but I have to agree!  You twisted what I had written in a previous post to 'incriminate' me, showing your police colours and you wonder at people's attitudes.
And before you twist again, I'm only commenting from my experience of those I've had dealings with.

[JamesV6CDX]

will arrest you if you dare so much as to blink at them.

If you really believe this, I really don't think it's worth anyone's time on here to hold any further sensible discussions with you on the subject.

As you say, people hold different views, some of which are obtained through what they see / perceive / hear from friends - and some from direct personal experience.

My respect for you has now been diminished

Given that your opening post branded thousands of people you've never met "w....ers".. I didn't think you had any in the first place.

I doubt anyone will lose any sleep

How many of us have had the job of going and knocking a door and telling the person who opens it that someone wont ever be coming home

Yes, I have done this once, alone, in November last year. It was one of the most difficult things I've done, but at the same time, very rewarding, having come away knowing I treated the person concerned with utmost respect and dealt with it in the best way I possibly could. The biggest surprise to me, was how long I was actually in there for.

[JamesV6CDX]

LJay - I apologise if you think my post was incriminating you.

This wasn't the intention, it was simply an opinion expressed off the back of something you wrote

[Richie London]

my son had a brand new jacket i bought for his birthday, cost was £95. he was stopped by  non whites whos culture is crime, threatened and made to hand his coat over, they were arrested. there version of the storywas my son went up to them give him his coat and walked off. we wrote to the police complaints and they did break all and upheld the police officers desicion. now if was the other way round it would of been a rascist attack and robbery.

the police in my opinion bully and intimidate the weak and vulnerable and fear the criminals

[bob.dent]

Always a subject to invoke heated discussion!

The way I see it is that whatever your views, without the police force there would be a complete breakdown in law and order and anarchy on the streets - we need them, end of!

As already said a few times, in all elements of life there will be good and bad and that's something I'm afraid we have to live with.

[footloose]

Crickey!
What ave i started here. I neither hate em or love em realy not having much to do with them in the past apart from a couple of bumps, one a wing mirror and the other a truck ran me off the road which bu**ard up my wheel etc. Nothing came of either incident though. That could have been the fault of the CPS saying 'not enough evidence'.
In the incident first written about. I just felt trapped i couldn't go to either side nor forward and my omega do's many things but just will not go upwards, And the centre rear headrest is now happily living in the boot.
I just felt for some reason an idiot for not being able to do what i should have been able to do. On thinking about it they should have been shouting at the tit blocking the roundabout and bringing the traffic to a stand still. I thought that was illegal anyway.
If i get picked on I'll let you know fellas
I might even throw a halfe eaten jam sandwich through thier open window if i happen to see them again. I may let the missus chuck it, I would like to see em arrest her, She'll talk em to death.

[Richie London]

i have to agree with h21. people are knocking the police from there own personal experiences,and what they have read in papers there is good and bad in all people. we pick up on the bad things so quick but fail to notice most of the time that the good people do. but dont forget the social workers who fail on the publice more than anyone in my opinion , paramedics who wont help people cause they are on there break, doctors, nurses. judges who fail to detain the most dangerous criminals, rapists and paedophiles. you could go on and on. i apologise for my comments as i am speaking from my own personal experiences

[Bionic]

Why apologise Richie??? Your opinion is your own as all those who post have their own too and no-one has the right to make you feel guilty over it. BigBrother does not yet rule this land although there are certain people who think they do. Names need not be mentioned but their posts tell us who they are.
Most likely they have their olfactory organ too close to the exhausts of the baddies
No m8, if you have a point to make or an opinion to give it is still a free country with Freedom of Speech.
 

[Bionic]

Crickey!
What ave i started here. I neither hate em or love em realy not having much to do with them in the past apart from a couple of bumps, one a wing mirror and the other a truck ran me off the road which bu**ard up my wheel etc. Nothing came of either incident though. That could have been the fault of the CPS saying 'not enough evidence'.
In the incident first written about. I just felt trapped i couldn't go to either side nor forward and my omega do's many things but just will not go upwards, And the centre rear headrest is now happily living in the boot.
I just felt for some reason an idiot for not being able to do what i should have been able to do. On thinking about it they should have been shouting at the tit blocking the roundabout and bringing the traffic to a stand still. I thought that was illegal anyway.
If i get picked on I'll let you know fellas
I might even throw a halfe eaten jam sandwich through thier open window if i happen to see them again. I may let the missus chuck it, I would like to see em arrest her, She'll talk em to death.

HoHo,  All you did m8 was to air an opinion that it looks lkike many of us agree with and some not. That is the spirit of this discussion page and long may it continue to be as contentious as this subject. It certainly makes the reading interesting.....
Pity it clearly upsets some but who cares.. if they don't like it  they don't have to read it do they?
 
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