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[Andy B]

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Anyhow, I would just give you a call saying that I'm setting off, and will be round at yours in 2 hrs... You could give me a hand then 

Not a problem!  You could even have electric hook up on my drive!       

[Ian_D]

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Anyhow, I would just give you a call saying that I'm setting off, and will be round at yours in 2 hrs... You could give me a hand then 

Not a problem!  You could even have electric hook up on my drive!       

Cool... How much per night with hookup? 

[Lazydocker]

Right... Underslung isn't an option with the Miggy because there wouldn't be enough ground clearance.

Vertical Toroidal tank is an option for a saloon (Chrisgsxr has one) but comes at a higher price (financially) and with a reduced range due to the smaller size... That said, even at 150 miles it's not too bad. When I first got my Rangie the range was about 125 miles but there's always the petrol to fall back on. I rarely had a problem finding LPG on (or very near to) my route, wherever I was travelling. Certainly in Europe it's available at the majority of services and about 60-70% (IIRCC) of standard filling stations.

Fitting the tank lengthways in the boot is (in theory) an option but I wouldn't be comfortable with that... In a rear end shunt the tank will NOT collapse in any way so will go straight through the seat back

As for new/2nd hand... New all the way, from Teilo (the supplier lots of us have used) His kit is proven to work, fantastic value, guaranteed for 2 years and unlimited miles and there's plenty of support both here and with him

If you like I'll try to arrange meeting up with you when I travel up that way over Christmas so you can have a look

[feeutfo]

just to add, i have a vertical donut tank in the spare wheel well, and have NEVER been able to empty it in less than 180miles, and i was trying hard in the early days of the install to find out the worst possible range.

Driving at normal, above legal, motorway speeds gives about 200. 230 is possible, more if you really want to drive purely with economy in mind, i dont have the patience for that though. I cant help with a town figure as my commute is 90% motorway. For me donut in spare wheel well was the only option as i need the through space to drop the rear seats down.

Having said that, the fact i have 5 lpg stations in Reading was definately a deciding factor. In affect, you need to reduce your affective tank range by the distance needed to drive to your nearest lpg station if its in the wrong direction to your regular journey. But if there is an outlet near your most regular route, why worry? Something to consider when making your decission.....?

Tbh, a boot full of "stuff" is no reason to fit a donut. Take the stuff out and fit a 100litre it seems to me, it will save you money, stuff will just cost you money to lug about. A doubly expensive way to drive perhaps? (Unless the "stuff" is actually needed of course :-) )

New Kit over second hand by the way, fitting new is challenge enough.

[feeutfo]

 i am also insured with direct line. Didnt cost a penny more as a dual fuel car. Only problem i had was they didnt know the rules, they where not aware of the safety certificate for diy installs and tried to tell me they would not cover the car if i touched the install myself. Idiots.

All sorted now though, with Lazydocker's and others help i was able to put them right in the end.
A safety cert  provided by an lpga approved installer is all thats needed. Worth a chat with him before you fit the fuel lines at least, to make sure you get it right first time saving time agro and a car full of holes. :-)


Dual fuel will get you 15 quid off car tax due to reduction in emissions.

[cruisetopoland]

i am also insured with direct line. Didnt cost a penny more as a dual fuel car. Only problem i had was they didnt know the rules, they where not aware of the safety certificate for diy installs and tried to tell me they would not cover the car if i touched the install myself. Idiots.

All sorted now though, with Lazydocker's and others help i was able to put them right in the end.
A safety cert  provided by an lpga approved installer is all thats needed. Worth a chat with him before you fit the fuel lines at least, to make sure you get it right first time saving time agro and a car full of holes. :-)


Dual fuel will get you 15 quid off car tax due to reduction in emissions.

Useful-cheers 

[Ian_D]

Right... Underslung isn't an option with the Miggy because there wouldn't be enough ground clearance.

Vertical Toroidal tank is an option for a saloon (Chrisgsxr has one) but comes at a higher price (financially) and with a reduced range due to the smaller size... That said, even at 150 miles it's not too bad. When I first got my Rangie the range was about 125 miles but there's always the petrol to fall back on. I rarely had a problem finding LPG on (or very near to) my route, wherever I was travelling. Certainly in Europe it's available at the majority of services and about 60-70% (IIRCC) of standard filling stations.

Fitting the tank lengthways in the boot is (in theory) an option but I wouldn't be comfortable with that... In a rear end shunt the tank will NOT collapse in any way so will go straight through the seat back

As for new/2nd hand... New all the way, from Teilo (the supplier lots of us have used) His kit is proven to work, fantastic value, guaranteed for 2 years and unlimited miles and there's plenty of support both here and with him

If you like I'll try to arrange meeting up with you when I travel up that way over Christmas so you can have a look

Thanks for the info mate! I didn’t think there was room under the car for a tank.

If you wouldn't mind nipping over to York some time, I would certainly be interested in having a good look round the install!

[Ian_D]

i am also insured with direct line. Didnt cost a penny more as a dual fuel car. Only problem i had was they didnt know the rules, they where not aware of the safety certificate for diy installs and tried to tell me they would not cover the car if i touched the install myself. Idiots.

All sorted now though, with Lazydocker's and others help i was able to put them right in the end.
A safety cert  provided by an lpga approved installer is all thats needed. Worth a chat with him before you fit the fuel lines at least, to make sure you get it right first time saving time agro and a car full of holes. :-)


Dual fuel will get you 15 quid off car tax due to reduction in emissions.

So I would NEED a safety certificate? How much do these cost? And how hard are they to get? :-/

[tunnie]

i am also insured with direct line. Didnt cost a penny more as a dual fuel car. Only problem i had was they didnt know the rules, they where not aware of the safety certificate for diy installs and tried to tell me they would not cover the car if i touched the install myself. Idiots.

All sorted now though, with Lazydocker's and others help i was able to put them right in the end.
A safety cert  provided by an lpga approved installer is all thats needed. Worth a chat with him before you fit the fuel lines at least, to make sure you get it right first time saving time agro and a car full of holes. :-)


Dual fuel will get you 15 quid off car tax due to reduction in emissions.

So I would NEED a safety certificate? How much do these cost? And how hard are they to get? :-/

About £80 i think (going from reports i see from other members) Takes about 30mins/1 hour the inspector goes over it to make sure its to his liking. Not heard any major issues, some ask for better heat shielding, things like that

[Lazydocker]

i am also insured with direct line. Didnt cost a penny more as a dual fuel car. Only problem i had was they didnt know the rules, they where not aware of the safety certificate for diy installs and tried to tell me they would not cover the car if i touched the install myself. Idiots.

All sorted now though, with Lazydocker's and others help i was able to put them right in the end.
A safety cert  provided by an lpga approved installer is all thats needed. Worth a chat with him before you fit the fuel lines at least, to make sure you get it right first time saving time agro and a car full of holes. :-)


Dual fuel will get you 15 quid off car tax due to reduction in emissions.

So I would NEED a safety certificate? How much do these cost? And how hard are they to get? :-/

Before you start it give a few local installers a call and check with them

[Lazydocker]

Right... Underslung isn't an option with the Miggy because there wouldn't be enough ground clearance.

Vertical Toroidal tank is an option for a saloon (Chrisgsxr has one) but comes at a higher price (financially) and with a reduced range due to the smaller size... That said, even at 150 miles it's not too bad. When I first got my Rangie the range was about 125 miles but there's always the petrol to fall back on. I rarely had a problem finding LPG on (or very near to) my route, wherever I was travelling. Certainly in Europe it's available at the majority of services and about 60-70% (IIRCC) of standard filling stations.

Fitting the tank lengthways in the boot is (in theory) an option but I wouldn't be comfortable with that... In a rear end shunt the tank will NOT collapse in any way so will go straight through the seat back

As for new/2nd hand... New all the way, from Teilo (the supplier lots of us have used) His kit is proven to work, fantastic value, guaranteed for 2 years and unlimited miles and there's plenty of support both here and with him

If you like I'll try to arrange meeting up with you when I travel up that way over Christmas so you can have a look

Thanks for the info mate! I didn’t think there was room under the car for a tank.

If you wouldn't mind nipping over to York some time, I would certainly be interested in having a good look round the install!

Not a problem.... I should be heading up to Richmond at some point over the festive period

[Ken T]

I recently installed lpg on my 2.2, and have a vert toroid in the spare wheel well. Its total capacity is 53 litre, which equates to 43 litre of gas, or about 9.5 gall, so I should get at least 240 miles. I could have fitted one bigger, there is about 2" above it so could hold more. As re the safety check, mine cost £84, however I have since found another garage who will do it for £40.  2nd hand can be ok if you are short of dosh, but make sure you can get software for it, otherwise you are stuck with the previous settings. AND you will have to replace some parts, pipework and in my case a new filler.

Ken

[cruisetopoland]

I recently installed lpg on my 2.2, and have a vert toroid in the spare wheel well. Its total capacity is 53 litre, which equates to 43 litre of gas, or about 9.5 gall, so I should get at least 240 miles. I could have fitted one bigger, there is about 2" above it so could hold more. As re the safety check, mine cost £84, however I have since found another garage who will do it for £40.  2nd hand can be ok if you are short of dosh, but make sure you can get software for it, otherwise you are stuck with the previous settings. AND you will have to replace some parts, pipework and in my case a new filler.

Ken

Useful-cheers 

[Ian_D]

Right... Underslung isn't an option with the Miggy because there wouldn't be enough ground clearance.

Vertical Toroidal tank is an option for a saloon (Chrisgsxr has one) but comes at a higher price (financially) and with a reduced range due to the smaller size... That said, even at 150 miles it's not too bad. When I first got my Rangie the range was about 125 miles but there's always the petrol to fall back on. I rarely had a problem finding LPG on (or very near to) my route, wherever I was travelling. Certainly in Europe it's available at the majority of services and about 60-70% (IIRCC) of standard filling stations.

Fitting the tank lengthways in the boot is (in theory) an option but I wouldn't be comfortable with that... In a rear end shunt the tank will NOT collapse in any way so will go straight through the seat back

As for new/2nd hand... New all the way, from Teilo (the supplier lots of us have used) His kit is proven to work, fantastic value, guaranteed for 2 years and unlimited miles and there's plenty of support both here and with him

If you like I'll try to arrange meeting up with you when I travel up that way over Christmas so you can have a look

Thanks for the info mate! I didn’t think there was room under the car for a tank.

If you wouldn't mind nipping over to York some time, I would certainly be interested in having a good look round the install!

Not a problem.... I should be heading up to Richmond at some point over the festive period

Let me know when mate and I will make sure the kettle is on! 

[feeutfo]

re tank size, 60litre currently fitted, and have seen 54 litres on the pump when filling from empty. If they make a 65 i think that may just fit, its the width thats tight. As said there is enough room above but....
 
When fitting the tank you have to lay it face down on the boot floor, then slide left and let it tip side ways into the spare wheel well. Its this action that is the deciding factor with the size if iirc. There maybe room when in place. But its "getting it in place" that governs the size if that makes sense. Too wide and too high and there may not be room to get it to clear the boot opening before it drops in. I bet thats clear as mud