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[mantahatch]

Is it because I am getting old, or is it really bad design by choice.
I have just done an oil change on my Omega and it really annoys me how difficult it is to get to the oil filter. Mum is on her way in her Omega and I have to do it all again in about half an hour.

Sorry guys just venting off.

[Kevin Wood]

Keeps your arm warm as the oil dribbles up your sleeve though.

kevin

[Marks DTM Calib]

You have to remember that all desigsn are a compromise.....and that the V6 pwoer plant has to fit in both longitudonal and transverse installs!

[TheBoy]

Shame they 'compromised' the loom route across the passenger bank .  That really is daft

[mantahatch]

Keeps your arm warm as the oil dribbles up your sleeve though.

kevin

Yes Kevin, I def got that one. Just pleased the sun is shining and I had just taken my jacket off when I removed the filter.

 

[Marks DTM Calib]

Shame they 'compromised' the loom route across the passenger bank .  That really is daft

Very sensible route when you consider volume assembly though

[TheBoy]

Shame they 'compromised' the loom route across the passenger bank .  That really is daft

Very sensible route when you consider volume assembly though

Only it blocks access to service items - plugs.

[mantahatch]

You have to remember that all desigsn are a compromise.....and that the V6 pwoer plant has to fit in both longitudonal and transverse installs!

Understood, but is it an easier on the FWD cars ? I no it will be at the front, but does the exhaust get in the way ?

Never had a FWD V6, thinking about it I would not one one 

[Marks DTM Calib]

Shame they 'compromised' the loom route across the passenger bank .  That really is daft

Very sensible route when you consider volume assembly though

Only it blocks access to service items - plugs.

Hardly, not on 2.5/3.0 anyway.

Coil pack based cars are worse.

So, where would you have routed it?

[Sixstring]

(smiles as he remembers the first time he changed the oil and got an armpit full......good times!)

[mantahatch]

Here we go again, mum just arrived with her Omega 

[TheBoy]

Shame they 'compromised' the loom route across the passenger bank .  That really is daft

Very sensible route when you consider volume assembly though

Only it blocks access to service items - plugs.

Hardly, not on 2.5/3.0 anyway.

Coil pack based cars are worse.

So, where would you have routed it?

If I was an engine designer, I wouldn't be messing around with crappy Internet infrastructure servers

Actually, for a production/built point of view, its not bad. Its post build servicing.

Would it be too hot to run under plenum, out of the way?

[Marks DTM Calib]

Shame they 'compromised' the loom route across the passenger bank .  That really is daft

Very sensible route when you consider volume assembly though

Only it blocks access to service items - plugs.

Hardly, not on 2.5/3.0 anyway.

Coil pack based cars are worse.

So, where would you have routed it?

If I was an engine designer, I wouldn't be messing around with crappy Internet infrastructure servers

Actually, for a production/built point of view, its not bad. Its post build servicing.

Would it be too hot to run under plenum, out of the way?

Hardly any room under plenum plus the loom would be fitted as the last item on the engine assembly

[Kevin Wood]

Would it be too hot to run under plenum, out of the way?

I was talking to a friend who's trying to repair a Granada Cosworth 24v the other day. Mechanically fine but they apparently ran a loom as thick as your arm down through the valley, down the transmission tunnel on top of the autobox.

Unfortunately they scrimped on the insulation, a coolant hose went, which necessitated access to the valley area, and as soon as the loom was disturbed the thing went haywire.

Turns out the whole lot had turned to powder. Moreover, the damage extended far enough down the tunnel that it was impossible to splice in a new section from above. The loom terminates in a ruddy great multiway connector that's on top of the gearbox, and not accessible with it in-situ, so it's an engine and gearbox out job.

That was probably very easy to manufacture too. At least the Omega's looms are out of harm's way and the connectors are accessible, on the whole.

Kevin

[TheBoy]

Shame they 'compromised' the loom route across the passenger bank .  That really is daft

Very sensible route when you consider volume assembly though

Only it blocks access to service items - plugs.

Hardly, not on 2.5/3.0 anyway.

Coil pack based cars are worse.

So, where would you have routed it?

If I was an engine designer, I wouldn't be messing around with crappy Internet infrastructure servers

Actually, for a production/built point of view, its not bad. Its post build servicing.

Would it be too hot to run under plenum, out of the way?

Hardly any room under plenum plus the loom would be fitted as the last item on the engine assembly

Aye, compromises, compromises.  Would increase size of package if it was run over top of plenum....