veg oil

[maracus]

Does anybody know anything about the legal side of things with this??? what would plod say about not paying fuel duty,  etc??? :-?

[Mr Skrunts]

Does anybody know anything about the legal side of things with this??? what would plod say about not paying fuel duty,  etc??? :-?

Dunno about that but when Tesco got light of what was happing there oil prices went up within a week.  :-/

[albitz]

Its perfectly legal to use veg oil or produce your own biodiesel as long as its for your own use only. Iirc the limit is 2500 litres per annum before you have to start paying duty.

[Varche]

Sorted. Al you need to do is keep some records of how much you produced and used and then when you reach the limit trot off and pay duty on it like a good boy.

[doog]

I ran a rover 600 td in used cooking oil for 4 years 80% oil 20% diesel  never missed a beat  (i did change fuel filters more often though)
I had a friend who ran a 2.5 omega  for the same lenght of time on the same stuff with no issues.

I can tell you it works better in some engines than others
I have killed 2 astra 2.0 diesel pumps with cooking oil in a short space of time. some cars are fine with it and will run for ever and some dont  i heard somewhere that VAG diesels will run forever on it
but most modern diesels dont like it

my local tescos has a sign on the pump saying it contains 8% bio fuels  so i depends on how you mix it with diesel i suppose

[Kevin Wood]

As I've said in another thread recently, a mate of mine has a veccy which the previous owner converted. Has a VO tank in the spare wheel well, electric fuel heating which switches over to heat from coolant once up to temperature.

He runs it on a mixture of vegetable oil and Jet A1 aviation fuel and reckons it works really well. It will apparently cold start on VO most of the year if he flushes it through with some diesel before shutting down but does get grumpy and puts the EML on sometimes (must pay him a visit with the Tech 2 one day).

He says that whilst it's cheaper to use WVO  it's a lot of hassle to process it. He just buys vegetable oil in 20L drums from a cash and carry and still makes a decent saving.

Kevin

[Iain]

Jet fuel!? 

[Entwood]

Jet fuel!? 

Jet A1 - aviation kerosene ... low grade paraffin effectively, some have anti-waxing/anti-icing additives added (FSII - Fuel System Icing Inhibitor - which also stops micro-biological fungal growths which wreck fuel tank linings very fast) as the fuel is subject to about -44°C at altitude .. don't think it would affect a Omega however ..

He's obviously getting the Jet A1 from a "special" source as its not available to the public generally ... parafin would work just as well .. but cost him a tad more I suspect ..

[Kevin Wood]

Jet fuel!? 

Jet A1 - aviation kerosene ... low grade paraffin effectively, some have anti-waxing/anti-icing additives added (FSII - Fuel System Icing Inhibitor - which also stops micro-biological fungal growths which wreck fuel tank linings very fast) as the fuel is subject to about -44°C at altitude .. don't think it would affect a Omega however ..

He's obviously getting the Jet A1 from a "special" source as its not available to the public generally ... parafin would work just as well .. but cost him a tad more I suspect ..

Yes, indeed - the local Plod helicopter.

They take daily samples of fuel and store them in case they are required as evidence, then they need to get rid after a month or so. That's where my mate comes in.

Kevin

[CaptainZok]

Jet fuel!? 

Jet A1 - aviation kerosene ... low grade paraffin effectively, some have anti-waxing/anti-icing additives added (FSII - Fuel System Icing Inhibitor - which also stops micro-biological fungal growths which wreck fuel tank linings very fast) as the fuel is subject to about -44°C at altitude .. don't think it would affect a Omega however ..

He's obviously getting the Jet A1 from a "special" source as its not available to the public generally ... parafin would work just as well .. but cost him a tad more I suspect ..

Yes, indeed - the local Plod helicopter.

They take daily samples of fuel and store them in case they are required as evidence, then they need to get rid after a month or so. That's where my mate comes in.

Kevin

Good on him for providing a service but why don't they just put it back in the bowser? Does it go off or something?

[Kevin Wood]

Good on him for providing a service but why don't they just put it back in the bowser? Does it go off or something?

I guess they are worried that it could become contaminated or be tampered with.  :-/

I also wonder why they take such large samples. Surely a teaspoon full would be enough but they keep it by the jerry can. Not that he's complaining.

Kevin

[Road Hog Mad]

my old land rover used to run on chip fat, by god did it stink of burgers, onion rings, chips etc. lol.

people even buy used cooking oil on ebay.

work out the savings, on an omega diesel it would cost around £80 for a full tank and that would get you around 500 miles right? used cooking oil I worked out cost me 7p per litre after filtering. Around £7 per full tank, £73 per week saving assuming you used a full tank per week. That'd nearly £4K a year, that's a nice holiday.

[tidla]

vehicle in question is a ldv van running transit gear 2.5 diesel.

fully loaded most of the time 18 mpg on diesel..

[albitz]

I know someone who has been running an old Transit on heating oil from the tank in his garden for the last couple of years.