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[Auto Addict]

My (not very scientific) experiments at attempting to find out how much difference A/C makes to fuel consumption, have suggested to me that it increases consumption by around 10%, so mine gets a few minutes per month use to keep it running healthily, I wiil also switch it on when we have occasional  hot days, but thats about it.

So that's 60p to 70p a fillup.

A lot of fillup's to cover the cost of a new condensor.

I doubt if it's 10% though.

[Andy B]

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A lot of fillup's to cover the cost of a new condensor.

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It's not the condenser that fails due to lack of use, it's the compressor seals that dry out due to lack of use. General salt from the road kills the condenser cos it sits right at the front of the car. 

[Auto Addict]

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A lot of fillup's to cover the cost of a new condensor.

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It's not the condenser that fails due to lack of use, it's the compressor seals that dry out due to lack of use. General salt from the road kills the condenser cos it sits right at the front of the car. 

Having a senior moment, I meant compressor

[Andy B]

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A lot of fillup's to cover the cost of a new condensor.

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It's not the condenser that fails due to lack of use, it's the compressor seals that dry out due to lack of use. General salt from the road kills the condenser cos it sits right at the front of the car. 

Having a senior moment, I meant compressor

        

[MaxV6]

Annoyances with current Mv6  (ignoring the knackered shocks&wishbones, constant scraping of mud flaps and exhaust, )

it lacks the useful cubby hole shelving that the elite had in the boot.

the centre console cubby hole is tiny, all it will hold is my glasses.


the window controls are totally in the wrong place...   they do not fall under hand easily...  i have to  move my arm backwards and twist my wrist to operate the drivers door window.

it does seem to mist up more than my last one....  scuttle cleared, and so on...   but still does it.

the stereo has less functionality, and takes up twice the space....

Elite had phone, cassette, CD, radio,  & Sat Nav,  and you could connect an ipod via the tape player... 

MV6 , no tape player, so no iPod,   and no phone....

and if i get a telematics....  bingo.... no glovebox....
the older arrangement definitely wins on a practicality basis.

and let's face it , the interior trim in general on the facelift lacks the "class" the MFL had.... 

acres of hard plastic VS leather .....  Hmmm...   difficult choice.... NOT....


i would be sorely tempted to replace most of a facelift interior with a pre-facelift....  (assuming it would fit)

 


(oh, and Senators ROCK!       but a well Sorted Senny A, was far nimbler and more "chuckable" than a Senny B.... for energetic A-B road driving...      but the B was smoother, and more stable at Very High Speed....  i covered a LOT of miles in both versions .....  and would love to still do so....    )

[Shackeng]

Annoyances with current Mv6  (ignoring the knackered shocks&wishbones, constant scraping of mud flaps and exhaust, )

it lacks the useful cubby hole shelving that the elite had in the boot.

the centre console cubby hole is tiny, all it will hold is my glasses.


the window controls are totally in the wrong place...   they do not fall under hand easily...  i have to  move my arm backwards and twist my wrist to operate the drivers door window.

it does seem to mist up more than my last one....  scuttle cleared, and so on...   but still does it.

the stereo has less functionality, and takes up twice the space....

Elite had phone, cassette, CD, radio,  & Sat Nav,  and you could connect an ipod via the tape player... 

MV6 , no tape player, so no iPod,   and no phone....

and if i get a telematics....  bingo.... no glovebox....
the older arrangement definitely wins on a practicality basis.

and let's face it , the interior trim in general on the facelift lacks the "class" the MFL had.... 

acres of hard plastic VS leather .....  Hmmm...   difficult choice.... NOT....


i would be sorely tempted to replace most of a facelift interior with a pre-facelift....  (assuming it would fit)

 


(oh, and Senators ROCK!       but a well Sorted Senny A, was far nimbler and more "chuckable" than a Senny B.... for energetic A-B road driving...      but the B was smoother, and more stable at Very High Speed....  i covered a LOT of miles in both versions .....  and would love to still do so....    )

Just cancelled my MV6 order.

[TheBoy]

My (not very scientific) experiments at attempting to find out how much difference A/C makes to fuel consumption, have suggested to me that it increases consumption by around 10%, so mine gets a few minutes per month use to keep it running healthily, I wiil also switch it on when we have occasional  hot days, but thats about it.

I actually checked the MV6 once, and it was exactly 1mpg - dropped from 24.8mpg to 23.8mpg.

The claims of 10% are the previous, useless, "speed kills", lets all buy electric, moronic government.

[TheBoy]

Annoyances with current Mv6  (ignoring the knackered shocks&wishbones, constant scraping of mud flaps and exhaust, )

it lacks the useful cubby hole shelving that the elite had in the boot.

the centre console cubby hole is tiny, all it will hold is my glasses.


the window controls are totally in the wrong place...   they do not fall under hand easily...  i have to  move my arm backwards and twist my wrist to operate the drivers door window.

it does seem to mist up more than my last one....  scuttle cleared, and so on...   but still does it.

the stereo has less functionality, and takes up twice the space....

Elite had phone, cassette, CD, radio,  & Sat Nav,  and you could connect an ipod via the tape player... 

MV6 , no tape player, so no iPod,   and no phone....

and if i get a telematics....  bingo.... no glovebox....
the older arrangement definitely wins on a practicality basis.

and let's face it , the interior trim in general on the facelift lacks the "class" the MFL had.... 

acres of hard plastic VS leather .....  Hmmm...   difficult choice.... NOT....


i would be sorely tempted to replace most of a facelift interior with a pre-facelift....  (assuming it would fit)

 


(oh, and Senators ROCK!       but a well Sorted Senny A, was far nimbler and more "chuckable" than a Senny B.... for energetic A-B road driving...      but the B was smoother, and more stable at Very High Speed....  i covered a LOT of miles in both versions .....  and would love to still do so....    )

In fairness, you are comparing a CD spec with an Elite spec.

[TheBoy]

All those with misted windows, can you just try putting pollen filter in airing cupboard overnight, see if that (temporarily) fixes issue?

[Auto Addict]

My (not very scientific) experiments at attempting to find out how much difference A/C makes to fuel consumption, have suggested to me that it increases consumption by around 10%, so mine gets a few minutes per month use to keep it running healthily, I wiil also switch it on when we have occasional  hot days, but thats about it.

I actually checked the MV6 once, and it was exactly 1mpg - dropped from 24.8mpg to 23.8mpg.
The claims of 10% are the previous, useless, "speed kills", lets all buy electric, moronic government.

I haven't actually checked it, 'cos I always run on aircon, but I am not surprised.

[albitz]

My (not very scientific) experiments at attempting to find out how much difference A/C makes to fuel consumption, have suggested to me that it increases consumption by around 10%, so mine gets a few minutes per month use to keep it running healthily, I wiil also switch it on when we have occasional  hot days, but thats about it.

So that's 60p to 70p a fillup.

A lot of fillup's to cover the cost of a new condensor.I doubt if it's 10% though.

Surely you mean £6 to £7 per fill up ?  :-/
Which is why I switch it on for 10 minutes once a month.My unscientific research was conducted in my Senator and my first Omega. It involved driving along a straight level road at a constant speed with A/C off, fuel readout saying approx 33mpg.
Switch on A/C readout drops to approx 30mpg.

I would add that I dislike air conditioned atmospheres, I have to put up with it at work these days and it gives me headaches.
Even on a warm day I will have the window down in the car rather than switch on the A/C. It has to be a hot day before I will revert to artificial chilling.

[Auto Addict]

My (not very scientific) experiments at attempting to find out how much difference A/C makes to fuel consumption, have suggested to me that it increases consumption by around 10%, so mine gets a few minutes per month use to keep it running healthily, I wiil also switch it on when we have occasional  hot days, but thats about it.

So that's 60p to 70p a fillup.

A lot of fillup's to cover the cost of a new condensor.I doubt if it's 10% though.

Surely you mean £6 to £7 per fill up ?  :-/
Which is why I switch it on for 10 minutes once a month.My unscientific research was conducted in my Senator and my first Omega. It involved driving along a straight level road at a constant speed with A/C off, fuel readout saying approx 33mpg.
Switch on A/C readout drops to approx 30mpg.

I would add that I dislike air conditioned atmospheres, I have to put up with it at work these days and it gives me headaches.
Even on a warm day I will have the window down in the car rather than switch on the A/C. It has to be a hot day before I will revert to artificial chilling.

Yet another senior moment

[TheBoy]

My (not very scientific) experiments at attempting to find out how much difference A/C makes to fuel consumption, have suggested to me that it increases consumption by around 10%, so mine gets a few minutes per month use to keep it running healthily, I wiil also switch it on when we have occasional  hot days, but thats about it.

So that's 60p to 70p a fillup.

A lot of fillup's to cover the cost of a new condensor.I doubt if it's 10% though.

Surely you mean £6 to £7 per fill up ?  :-/
Which is why I switch it on for 10 minutes once a month.My unscientific research was conducted in my Senator and my first Omega. It involved driving along a straight level road at a constant speed with A/C off, fuel readout saying approx 33mpg.
Switch on A/C readout drops to approx 30mpg.

I would add that I dislike air conditioned atmospheres, I have to put up with it at work these days and it gives me headaches.
Even on a warm day I will have the window down in the car rather than switch on the A/C. It has to be a hot day before I will revert to artificial chilling.

I like to open windows as well. But I still do not bother turning off AC

[feeutfo]

...but personal preferance aside, its designed to run ac on....?

[Vamps]

Running on 'Auto' means air con on, does it not?regardless of temp set......