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[Entwood]

Another victory for the 4 pots   

because a limited number of V6s shows an EML every now & then? .............  :-? :-? :-? :-/

Limited meaning every 3.2 

If you bothered to READ the thread rather than make assumptions  ... you would see I've not had an EML light for 15 months ... so here is a 3.2 V6 without  a problem ... and H21 another ....   

"every" is a very big word when missused    

[Kevin Wood]

Had mine for over 2 years and no EML light???   :-/   

I'd really like to know what's different about the 3.2s that exhibit this problem against those that don't.  :-/

Kevin

[hotel21]

Had mine for over 2 years and no EML light???   :-/   

I'd really like to know what's different about the 3.2s that exhibit this problem against those that don't.  :-/

Kevin

As a minimum, I use branded fuels but generally, V-power from Shell.. Its the closest garage to my home and at worst, V-power is a placebo effect that keeps the EML out.....      

[Vamps]

So, air bag ecu change or take out the bulb....

[feeutfo]

Had mine for over 2 years and no EML light???   :-/   

I'd really like to know what's different about the 3.2s that exhibit this problem against those that don't.  :-/

Kevin

As a minimum, I use branded fuels but generally, V-power from Shell.. Its the closest garage to my home and at worst, V-power is a placebo effect that keeps the EML out.....      

Still no eml here....
Asda unleaded or autogas, makes no odds to mine...although lpg set to 1.0 bar did bring the lite on, but 1.0 bar was too low as suspected, reset to 1.1 and the light went off again. Not seen it since... 8-)

[feeutfo]

But aaaaanyway, where has this info come from re mot changes btw? looks like a one off post on a forum from what the link shows me, maybe its not displaying correctly on my shite Nokia? but i am sure if we looked hard enough on the web we could find “evidence” to support any theory imagineable.....       .......or have i missed something? :-/ :-?

[aaronjb]

If you view the full thread (rather than the single post linked to) there are links to various bits of information from VOSA.

Basically it's all down to the stuff that was in the news recently about bringing the UK into line with the EU and their bi-annual MOT checks rather than our annual ones.

[05omegav6]

For better or worse, I already go through the 6 monthly ritual with both mine, as council insist on bi-annual inspections for all the taxi and private hire vehicles that they license. :-/

Before anyone pipes up about a mechanical inspection for the council not being a 'real Mot', I can only have the car inspected at a DoT testing station. The car is checked to MoT standards, and is pass/fail with no advisories allowed :-/
After this ordeal, the car is then visually inspected by the licensing officer. If he is having a bad day, and the car isn't quite spotless, then he can refuse to license it until it has been cleaned, meaning a new appointment in 3 weeks, time not working etc, etc.

Realistically, these new regulations probably won't apply to our beloved/cursed (delete as applicable ) migs due to their age, in the same way that emission requirements are different for older vehicles. We can but hope...

[feeutfo]

If you view the full thread (rather than the single post linked to) there are links to various bits of information from VOSA.

Basically it's all down to the stuff that was in the news recently about bringing the UK into line with the EU and their bi-annual MOT checks rather than our annual ones.

ah, so yes, i have missed something....and the news as well

i'm all for it....i think?  from what i see on my commute the current system is inadequate. Wonky head lights, bulbs failed, balled tyres.

 Reps need realing in, newer cars with no tyre tread abound.

Not sure on the chipping issue, esp diesels....

[Kevin Wood]

.. except what's being proposed is biennial. An MOT every 2 years, and first MOT when a car is 4 years old.

I think it's a terrible idea. IMHO the public aside from enthusiasts have no common sense when it comes to motoring any more and rely on an annual MOT to tell them when to change tyres, brakes, etc. 2 years is too long for a car to run without any attention and we have little enforcement from traffic police any more so the MOT is the only mechanism preventing cars from becoming seriously dangerous.

Adding complexity to the MOT will make it more expensive and a pain in the @rse but won't stop those determined to make illegal mods, as said. Keep the MOT a basic test of a car's roadworthiness and keep it annual, IMHO. Let the Police round up all the chavs.

Why do we need to be "in line" with Europe anyway? :-/ We have a system that works. Europe can go forth and...


Kevin

[Debs.]

Europe can go forth and...

  Prosper!.......(seemingly)

[Kevin Wood]

Europe can go forth and...

  Prosper!.......(seemingly)

Shouldn't that be "Live long and prosper?" 

Kevin

[Varche]

.. except what's being proposed is biennial. An MOT every 2 years, and first MOT when a car is 4 years old.

I think it's a terrible idea. IMHO the public aside from enthusiasts have no common sense when it comes to motoring any more and rely on an annual MOT to tell them when to change tyres, brakes, etc. 2 years is too long for a car to run without any attention and we have little enforcement from traffic police any more so the MOT is the only mechanism preventing cars from becoming seriously dangerous.

Adding complexity to the MOT will make it more expensive and a pain in the @rse but won't stop those determined to make illegal mods, as said. Keep the MOT a basic test of a car's roadworthiness and keep it annual, IMHO. Let the Police round up all the chavs.

Why do we need to be "in line" with Europe anyway? :-/ We have a system that works. Europe can go forth and...

Kevin

I agree with you to a point but as someone who lives in Europe rather than a crowded little island sort of in Europe, I have to say that it is high time that the best practice from all countries in the EU was applied across the EU. I am fed up of the difficulties ordinary folk face with mororing in different countries.

 If you go on the coastal Motorway out of Malaga any weekend in the summer every other vehicle is foreign and hopefully road legal but you never know. Why is the German tyre tread limit so much more rigourous than elsewhere? Are there roads more dangerous for low treaded tyres? What happens when you go to Germany with a car that has tyres Ok in another country? Barmy.

The problem with blanket EU requirements like No test required till X years old, then Biannual till ten years old and from then on annual is that it takes no account of driving habits. Your average Spaniard I suspect does about 4 or 5 thousand miles a year at a leisurely pace. Compare that with your average Brit who commutes a long way to work each day and clocks up say12k a year of hard cut and thrust driving on roads soaked with salt to rot the cars soul.


Vans here in Spain have to be tested every six months! Presumably taxis are the same.

I do agree with you about the public having no common sense. No one knows anything anymore, you only have to look at Sat Nav users.

[Kevin Wood]

I agree with you to a point but as someone who lives in Europe rather than a crowded little island sort of in Europe, I have to say that it is high time that the best practice from all countries in the EU was applied across the EU. I am fed up of the difficulties ordinary folk face with mororing in different countries.

Exactly. Best practice is currently our MOT system IMHO. Yet are Europe interested in adopting it?

If you go on the coastal Motorway out of Malaga any weekend in the summer every other vehicle is foreign and hopefully road legal but you never know...

Likewise our roads are full of Polish, Czech & Latvian HGVs.

I know someone who came here from Portugal for a few years. I advised him that he ought to have an MOT on his car, even if just to cover himself. No MOT station in the UK would touch it because their system barfed as soon as a Portuguese registration number was entered.

The authorities in Portugal told him he doesn't need (and can't have) their equivalent test done as he's not driving the car in Portugal any more.

Why is the German tyre tread limit so much more rigourous than elsewhere?

The way Germans drive the car needs to be tip top.  I wonder if they bother checking handbrakes in a German test, because in 20+ years of travelling there regularly I have not once seen a German driver use the handbrake.

No test required till X years old, then Biannual till ten years old and from then on annual is that it takes no account of driving habits.

Nor maintenance habits and enforcement habits. I have seen roadblocks where the Police just stop the traffic and check every car in mainland Europe so maybe more defective cars get picked up that way. Like that's going to happen on the M25. The fact is, we rely very heavily on MOT testing to keep unsafe cars off the road, and the failure rate is 30-40% with an annual test.

Kevin

[aaronjb]

Whoops, sorry.. biannual, biennial .. my bad