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[tidla]

no toyota on the list?, how many seats?

[Varche]

Economy, cost of running, reliability are key factors.

I think that might possibly rule out a Jeep Cherokee. That is a big vehicle. I don't really want anything that will average less than 23mpg even on diesel.

Toyota? ?   Only need 4 or 5 seats.

Had another look at a locals SWB Mitsibushi Pajero today. It isn't for sale but has done 140k miles. After a clean up it would be a good buy!! 

Funnily enough just towed a ton of sand home tonight in a trailer up and down the 1 in 5 hills and my neighbour who came with me was mega impressed with the Omega (well it wasn't in one of its periodic fault modes). 

[Kevin Wood]

no toyota on the list?, how many seats?

Valid point. They are indestructible, as seen on top gear. We have a HiLux 2.4D pickup at the gliding club that has spent the last 10 years towing cables across the airfield at 30 MPH in 2nd gear. My first memory of it was that it had about 40 or 50k on the clock. It's now up to about 260k. It's not road legal so that's the only task it's done. It has been through a few clutches, has about 10 degrees of play in the steering wheel in the straight ahead position and looks a shed but the mechanical bits still work fine, despite the fact that it gets driven by anyone who happens to get collared to do the job, and many 'ain't that mechanically sympathetic.

Kevin

[henryd]

Economy, cost of running, reliability are key factors.

I think that might possibly rule out a Jeep Cherokee. That is a big vehicle. I don't really want anything that will average less than 23mpg even on diesel.

Toyota? ?   Only need 4 or 5 seats.

Had another look at a locals SWB Mitsibushi Pajero today. It isn't for sale but has done 140k miles. After a clean up it would be a good buy!! 

Funnily enough just towed a ton of sand home tonight in a trailer up and down the 1 in 5 hills and my neighbour who came with me was mega impressed with the Omega (well it wasn't in one of its periodic fault modes). 

The car that my mig replaced was a grand cherokee 2.5td,that averaged around 27.5mpg on its american trip computer (4.0lt us gallons).
I quite liked it and it was epic off road but not that great on road,I much prefer the mig but will miss four wheel drive come winter if it snows again

[V6 CDX-er]

Come `join the Disco. club

.....cheap parts, easy to fix and in a dry climate the Disco`s MAJOR issue (rust) would be mostly negated.
They tow well, go excellently off-road and have the comfort for those longer journeys.

I agree.

I've had my 1996 300tdi for around four years now. Very comfortable on long journeys, and if it wasn't for the rust, (lots and lots of rust), it would have cost peanuts to run, (erm, excluding fuel).



I've had a Frontera in the past. A 2.8td. I know this is a VX website, but frankly it was crap.

Cant comment on the Vitara much. The only thing that I could say about them is that many years ago when I used to work at a Citroen / Suzuki main dealers, the Spanish built Vitaras had a reputation for poor build quality compared to the Japanese built ones.

[Debs.]

As Harry Hill might say:
"Dirty boy!" 

[Debs.]

Economy, cost of running, reliability are key factors.

In your warm climate; year`round veggie oil (SVO) fuelling of a 'suitable' diesel would be possible, without needing fuel pre-heaters or having two-tanks etc.
Not sure about running any of the Japanese diesels on veggie; but the 200/300 tdi`s certainly can.

I wonder if Spanish veggie oil would cost less than it does here?.......TBH, our U.K oil often isn`t too costly: e.g recently, ASDA rapeseed oil- 6 litres for £2.....and 'BOGOF' too!:y

[Varche]

I quite like the idea of something that can run on veg oil. My brother runs 2 vehicles on it exclusively after processing.

Veg oil shot up in price here to not much less than 1 euro a litre, diesel is about 1.15. Ostensibly it rose following the introduction of new rules pertaining to how it was produced i.e. only controlled chemicals. That ruled out most of the cheap imported East European stuff. Very little in the way of offers here like UK BOGOF's but I know plenty of places that would be only too keen to let me remove their used oil for free.

[cem_devecioglu]

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so my vote is obvious

[V6 CDX-er]

As Harry Hill might say:
"Dirty boy!" 

After cleaning the lights, glass and underneath I drove round with it like that for a few more days untill the local police stopped me and suggested that I get it washed 

[Varche]

I am not joking when I say my Omega has looked like that on a number of occasions since living here.

Mud is a real problem when it rains heavily, as it just gets washed onto the local roads in vast quantities. Soon gets cleared though by contract JCB drivers. Bit like snow in the UK really, though we get that here as well. Been snowed in twice in five years!

[bigegg]

I,ve had 3 Pajeros 1 swb 2lwb fantastic tow vehicles lwb certainly the best sold my 97 2.8 turbo diesel 12 mths ago, too much hassle to get it matriculated because of the french requirements,still miss that truck. Economy certainly not as bad as quoted although I never really counted the miles,felt that the driving experience and confidence it gave were worth the little extra in fuel costs. A go anywhere with anything on the back vehicle ***** Cracking.    

To be fair - mine did blow it's head gasket, which may have contributed to the lack of economy...

BUT:
I went from spending £30 PER DAY on fuel to about £10 a day, when I swapped the shogun (3.0 LWB) to a 2.5Di transit - doing the same trips. (albeit no trailer, everything in the van).

[Phil]

From that list, Discovery all the way.

My Dad has a V8 Discovery, its quite a hoot to drive!!

Been for a play in a few 'modified' (see below) and un-modified RangeRovers and am amazed what they can do if you are not bothered about re-arranging the vegitation with the body work

Amazed no one has mentioed either a 90 or 110 as an option.