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[Omegatoy]

nice bit of info there bud going from this i think i would definetly fit them to mine!!! however harsh or harder they are i would value the sharper response steering wise!!
were they expensive?

[feeutfo]

nice bit of info there bud going from this i think i would definetly fit them to mine!!! however harsh or harder they are i would value the sharper response steering wise!!
were they expensive?

Not sure I would recommend them OT. They are very very harsh on the brakes! As I discovered today on the way to Wim. Roads round Chesham are very poor. BANG from the front as I hit the brakes over a not particularly broken bit of road surface, not good. That plastic spacer hammers the outside edge of the wishbone under heavy braking.I don't think it will take long for that plastic part to brake. 

Wim reported a big toe discrepancy of -0.32 and -0.31 when it should be +0.05 which it now is, bang on! And camber of -2.13 and -2.42 prior to set up, which I am not surprised about as the car was nowhere near that far out before fitting m3 bushes when measured by spirit level and "rifle siting" the front wheels for line up with the rear. All makes sense given the offset spacer. 

The guy at Wim said they where defo firmer than stock when levering with his trusty bar, but softer than Polly he had seen on other models.....

.....wonder if it's worth adjusting the spacer by grinding off some material between spacer and bush outside edge? Might make them less harsh but still keep some of the steering firmness....?  :-/

Fairly easy to remove, grind on a bench grinder and refit. My Jack lifts high enough to slide ramps under the front wheels to make bolt re torqueing so much easier 

[Omegatoy]

nice bit of info there bud going from this i think i would definetly fit them to mine!!! however harsh or harder they are i would value the sharper response steering wise!!
were they expensive?

Not sure I would recommend them OT. They are very very harsh on the brakes! As I discovered today on the way to Wim. Roads round Chesham are very poor. BANG from the front as I hit the brakes over a not particularly broken bit of road surface, not good. That plastic spacer hammers the outside edge of the wishbone under heavy braking.I don't think it will take long for that plastic part to brake. 

Wim reported a big toe discrepancy of -0.32 and -0.31 when it should be +0.05 which it now is, bang on! And camber of -2.13 and -2.42 prior to set up, which I am not surprised about as the car was nowhere near that far out before fitting m3 bushes when measured by spirit level and "rifle siting" the front wheels for line up with the rear. All makes sense given the offset spacer. 

The guy at Wim said they where defo firmer than stock when levering with his trusty bar, but softer than Polly he had seen on other models.....

.....wonder if it's worth adjusting the spacer by grinding off some material between spacer and bush outside edge? Might make them less harsh but still keep some of the steering firmness....?  :-/

Fairly easy to remove, grind on a bench grinder and refit. My Jack lifts high enough to slide ramps under the front wheels to make bolt re torqueing so much easier 

ok Chris keep me informed, thanks again

[aaronjb]

That plastic spacer hammers the outside edge of the wishbone under heavy braking.

Told you so...  *ducks*

[feeutfo]

Hmmm, got a nasty feeling....

[aaronjb]

Hmmm, got a nasty feeling....

That you're going to thump me if I say that again?

Or you've got a nasty feeling that the plastic spacer has exploded?

[Kevin Wood]

BANG from the front as I hit the brakes over a not particularly broken bit of road surface, not good.

I wonder if the inner sleeve of the bush is a little loose on the bolt if it's knocking?

Kevin

[feeutfo]

BANG from the front as I hit the brakes over a not particularly broken bit of road surface, not good.

I wonder if the inner sleeve of the bush is a little loose on the bolt if it's knocking?

Kevin

Nah, properly torqued. My Jack lifts the car high enough to get ramps under the wheels. So wheels loaded, the ramps slide on the drive so the the wheels aren't pinched, and plenty of room to swing a  torque wrench and angle tighten. Well happy with that, and the sleeve is the same length, I checked that.

However, have a look at the pics at the start...see if you can spot my deliberate mistake.

[Kevin Wood]

BANG from the front as I hit the brakes over a not particularly broken bit of road surface, not good.

I wonder if the inner sleeve of the bush is a little loose on the bolt if it's knocking?

Kevin

Nah, properly torqued. My Jack lifts the car high enough to get ramps under the wheels. So wheels loaded, the ramps slide on the drive so the the wheels aren't pinched, and plenty of room to swing a  torque wrench and angle tighten. Well happy with that, and the sleeve is the same length, I checked that.

However, have a look at the pics at the start...see if you can spot my deliberate mistake.

Not much travel in the bush in the braking direction? You sure they're supposed to be that way round?

Kevin

[feeutfo]

BANG from the front as I hit the brakes over a not particularly broken bit of road surface, not good.

I wonder if the inner sleeve of the bush is a little loose on the bolt if it's knocking?

Kevin

Nah, properly torqued. My Jack lifts the car high enough to get ramps under the wheels. So wheels loaded, the ramps slide on the drive so the the wheels aren't pinched, and plenty of room to swing a  torque wrench and angle tighten. Well happy with that, and the sleeve is the same length, I checked that.

However, have a look at the pics at the start...see if you can spot my deliberate mistake.

Not much travel in the bush in the braking direction? You sure they're supposed to be that way round?

Kevin

A slight error in the bush orientation........ 'dangle berries'!   . 

New set of bushes arrived today from allgerman, press the original 60k old wishbones tomorrow with a bit of luck.  Arse!

[TheBoy]

PMSL

[feeutfo]

PMSL

is that all? I was expecting much more...      .   


 

[TheBoy]

PMSL

is that all? I was expecting much more...      .   

 

I'm not vindictive, or a pisstaker....

...though I was contemplating swinging past yours to get your opinion on my bushes...  ...not sure I should now

[feeutfo]

PMSL

is that all? I was expecting much more...      .   

 

I'm not vindictive, or a pisstaker....

...though I was contemplating swinging past yours to get your opinion on my bushes...  ...not sure I should now

Nope, no idea what I'm talking about.....   ...oh well. I'll just have to learn how to press them out as well as in. They can go on the silver car once rectified.

Still, should be good when sorted. Ffs.    Ahahahaaaa. 

[Kevin Wood]

I would be inclined to try them without the plastic bit.

Might just rescue the situation.

Kevin