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[Marks DTM Calib]

Really like the DSG personally, I like the way it changes gear, and enjoy the experience of it doing so as often as possible, within reason. It's ......different .... Surges almost, as it changes, as if a bit too quick with the clutch on a manual.

But that aside yes it could be very annoying if it does not change gear efficiently.

There great on the upshift and pretty poor on the downshift, particularly when driving with a bit of enthusiasm. 

[TheBoy]

TBH, the wifes new VVT based 1.6 has a very flat torque delivery and hence it suits a 5 pseed very well.

My diesel needs a 6 speed box to keep it on the boil.

The V6 Omegas work well on a 5 speed (and ok on a 4 speed auto)

The flat delivery means it works very well imho, given that neither option is exactly a sporty setup

I do feel the auto could benefit another, just to improve acceleration a tad, particularly in that 0 to 65mph range, lengthening (what would be) 3rd out to 100ish. Popping into top could stay at the just under 130mph point.

Sourcing a European 5 speed was on my list of upgrades once, not sure I could be bothered now, but shouldn't be too difficult once found, presumably?

You'd need to rewrite the TCM's map, as the 5 speed is for Y25DT motor...

[feeutfo]

TBH, the wifes new VVT based 1.6 has a very flat torque delivery and hence it suits a 5 pseed very well.

My diesel needs a 6 speed box to keep it on the boil.

The V6 Omegas work well on a 5 speed (and ok on a 4 speed auto)

The flat delivery means it works very well imho, given that neither option is exactly a sporty setup
Good job I can't be bothered then...
I do feel the auto could benefit another, just to improve acceleration a tad, particularly in that 0 to 65mph range, lengthening (what would be) 3rd out to 100ish. Popping into top could stay at the just under 130mph point.

Sourcing a European 5 speed was on my list of upgrades once, not sure I could be bothered now, but shouldn't be too difficult once found, presumably?

You'd need to rewrite the TCM's map, as the 5 speed is for Y25DT motor...

Good job I can't be bothered then. 

[feeutfo]

Really like the DSG personally, I like the way it changes gear, and enjoy the experience of it doing so as often as possible, within reason. It's ......different .... Surges almost, as it changes, as if a bit too quick with the clutch on a manual.

But that aside yes it could be very annoying if it does not change gear efficiently.

There great on the upshift and pretty poor on the downshift, particularly when driving with a bit of enthusiasm. 

Er yeah, seem to remember being less impressed on the down shifts, her Golf had it, lovely car, long gone since.  She wouldn't let me play too much 

[Kevin Wood]

Really like the DSG personally, I like the way it changes gear, and enjoy the experience of it doing so as often as possible, within reason. It's ......different .... Surges almost, as it changes, as if a bit too quick with the clutch on a manual.

But that aside yes it could be very annoying if it does not change gear efficiently.

There great on the upshift and pretty poor on the downshift, particularly when driving with a bit of enthusiasm. 

Er yeah, seem to remember being less impressed on the down shifts, her Golf had it, lovely car, long gone since.  She wouldn't let me play too much 

It's just the sheer number of gear changes when pootling about that annoyed me. Pull away gently from the lights and it's gone from 1,2,3, before you even notice you're moving, then a few  mm more throttle travel and it's back down to 2. Ease off and coast and it changes up a couple of times. I can't really explain why I hate it so much but all the frenetic changes up and down the box made it almost as tedious as if I was changing manually.

Technically, it's the perfect gearbox, of course (It was designed by Germans, so it must be ) but I found the driving experience awful. Not to mention the "paying to get it fixed" experience that seems to be commonplace.

Perhaps they should make one that block changes up and down 2 gears at a time, say, if you're just pootling?  That should give the development guys a headache.

Kevin