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LPG Opinion
« on: 14 January 2011, 12:13:42 »

Just been to this place, local to me 
http://www.leedslpg.co.uk/?gclid=CK_Rzq_VuaYCFcoe4QodAVe9Gw

£850 includes 52 ltr tank, goes in space wheel place, £50 more gets me a 70 ltr cylinder but goes in the boot.

The system they use is KME.

Any thoughts, wouldn't mind doing DIY but i'll end up with a pile of spare bits !!  :o ;D
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Re: LPG Opinion
« Reply #1 on: 14 January 2011, 12:28:57 »

That sounds suspiciously cheap.

I would certainly want to see some of their workmanship before committing.

To do a conversion in one day, even for a couple of guys in a well-equipped workshop, leaves no margin for resolving problems or considering alternatives when it comes to fitting, so they will literally be taking the kit of the its' box and slapping it on the car by the first method that occurs to them.

Also - there's no mention of UKLPG or any form of certification on their web site. UKLPG accreditation doesn't guarantee anything at all as they do little more than collect money from their members, but if paying for a "professional" install, I'd want all the boxes ticked so I don't have any aggro insuring the car.

I've not come across the KME kit before so not sure what that is like. I would make sure it's common enough that you can get support for it.

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Re: LPG Opinion
« Reply #2 on: 14 January 2011, 12:43:23 »

Thanks  :)

Could do with finding a good fitter in Leeds  ::)
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Re: LPG Opinion
« Reply #3 on: 14 January 2011, 13:20:03 »

Blimey thats cheap!!  I was quoted £1700 for a 2.0, 16 valve, 1999 model.  More than the car was worth!  :o
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« Reply #4 on: 14 January 2011, 15:16:14 »

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Just been to this place, local to me 
http://www.leedslpg.co.uk/?gclid=CK_Rzq_VuaYCFcoe4QodAVe9Gw

£850 includes 52 ltr tank, goes in space wheel place, £50 more gets me a 70 ltr cylinder but goes in the boot.

The system they use is KME.

Any thoughts, wouldn't mind doing DIY but i'll end up with a pile of spare bits !!  :o ;D
Have a look in maintanance/index/LPG down the bottom.

With a pre drilled manifold, and somebody lined up to do the soldering to loom to ecu in the engine bay fuse box(like Kevin Wood or TheBoy or MarksDtm on here) those guides make the job quite straight forward IMO.

If your even remotely 50/50 about doing the job DIY, go for it. Once the plenum is refitted with injectors in place and sealed to the intake, anything else can be done as time allows. Then get it soldered into the loom and away you go.

Be methodical, do your homework, ask on here before doing anything even remotely uncertain, and it's really not that hard to install DIY.....IMO.
« Last Edit: 14 January 2011, 15:17:52 by chrisgixer »
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« Reply #5 on: 14 January 2011, 16:11:07 »

best bet is to visit the installers and see the work done in situ which I tried in the past and give up forever ;D
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« Reply #6 on: 14 January 2011, 16:42:36 »

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best bet is to visit the installers and see the work done in situ which I tried in the past and give up forever ;D
copy thier work and 9 times out of 10 they'll fail it at certification  :D
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Re: LPG Opinion
« Reply #7 on: 14 January 2011, 17:38:09 »

Rule 1 :

Ask them for contact details of an Omega they have already converted. Contact the owner and chat/view the work.

Rule 2 :

Do nothing until Rule 1 is completed

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Re: LPG Opinion
« Reply #8 on: 14 January 2011, 17:49:53 »

a 52L tank in the spare wheel well gives you about 260 miles motorway driving, with the gauge reading about 30MPG. Its handy giving you the whole boot space, but is a bit restrictive in range.

Its not that hard to DIY, my spare 2.2 inlet manifold is about somewhere(tunnie's ?) so you can get it drilled and nozzles fitted before you start, which means the car is only out of use for the time it takes to swap the manifold. The rest of the install can be done in easy sections.

Ken
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Re: LPG Opinion
« Reply #9 on: 14 January 2011, 19:03:17 »

Firstly, that seems too cheap.

Secondly, to do it in a day they almost certainly won't be removing the inlet manifold to drill it :o

Thirdly, how do they justify charging more for a cylinder tank... They're considerably cheaper than toroidal tanks! Oh... And if fitting a cylinder, 80L is better suited and takes similar space to a 70.

Fourth, as above posts really... As far as DIY goes, if you can service it and clean the breathers then you can almost certainly fit LPG. It's not particularly hard, especially if you follow the guides ;)
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« Reply #10 on: 14 January 2011, 19:08:35 »

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Firstly, that seems too cheap.

Secondly, to do it in a day they almost certainly won't be removing the inlet manifold to drill it :o

Thirdly, how do they justify charging more for a cylinder tank... They're considerably cheaper than toroidal tanks! Oh... And if fitting a cylinder, 80L is better suited and takes similar space to a 70.

Fourth, as above posts really... As far as DIY goes, if you can service it and clean the breathers then you can almost certainly fit LPG. It's not particularly hard, especially if you follow the guides ;)

although fitting is not that hard, the problem starts when calibrating/tuning the system.. and thats ona car without any issues :-/
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« Reply #11 on: 14 January 2011, 19:16:43 »

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Firstly, that seems too cheap.

Secondly, to do it in a day they almost certainly won't be removing the inlet manifold to drill it :o

Thirdly, how do they justify charging more for a cylinder tank... They're considerably cheaper than toroidal tanks! Oh... And if fitting a cylinder, 80L is better suited and takes similar space to a 70.

Fourth, as above posts really... As far as DIY goes, if you can service it and clean the breathers then you can almost certainly fit LPG. It's not particularly hard, especially if you follow the guides ;)

although fitting is not that hard, the problem starts when calibrating/tuning the system.. and thats ona car without any issues :-/

The Stag kit that many of us have is actually very easy to do, especially if you follow the excellent guide Kevin composed for that part :y
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« Reply #12 on: 14 January 2011, 19:30:31 »

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Firstly, that seems too cheap.

Secondly, to do it in a day they almost certainly won't be removing the inlet manifold to drill it :o

Thirdly, how do they justify charging more for a cylinder tank... They're considerably cheaper than toroidal tanks! Oh... And if fitting a cylinder, 80L is better suited and takes similar space to a 70.

Fourth, as above posts really... As far as DIY goes, if you can service it and clean the breathers then you can almost certainly fit LPG. It's not particularly hard, especially if you follow the guides ;)

although fitting is not that hard, the problem starts when calibrating/tuning the system.. and thats ona car without any issues :-/

The Stag kit that many of us have is actually very easy to do, especially if you follow the excellent guide Kevin composed for that part :y

Stag Kit ok.. Prince , BRC  :-/  most of those firms keep the parameters to themselves only >:(
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« Reply #13 on: 14 January 2011, 22:11:58 »

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a 52L tank in the spare wheel well gives you about 260 miles motorway driving, with the gauge reading about 30MPG. Its handy giving you the whole boot space, but is a bit restrictive in range.

Its not that hard to DIY, my spare 2.2 inlet manifold is about somewhere(tunnie's ?) so you can get it drilled and nozzles fitted before you start, which means the car is only out of use for the time it takes to swap the manifold. The rest of the install can be done in easy sections.

Ken

That sounds like a plan Ken cheers buddy
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Re: LPG Opinion
« Reply #14 on: 14 January 2011, 22:17:25 »

My car is running sweet at the moment, no warning lights  ::) etc

Thanks for your help guys  :y
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