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Re: Smartcar NOT so Smart!!
« Reply #15 on: 02 February 2011, 21:59:04 »

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Much better access if you ditch the standard engine and fit a GSX-R engine instead:



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..and you can probably mow the lawn in half the time too. :y

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Re: Smartcar NOT so Smart!!
« Reply #16 on: 02 February 2011, 22:02:58 »

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Much better access if you ditch the standard engine and fit a GSX-R engine instead: ....

The standard 80bhp engine is lacking in torque, I'd imagine a bike engine would be even worse.  :-/ :-/
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Re: Smartcar NOT so Smart!!
« Reply #17 on: 02 February 2011, 22:17:29 »

and no reverse gear ;D
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Re: Smartcar NOT so Smart!!
« Reply #18 on: 02 February 2011, 22:19:13 »

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« Reply #19 on: 02 February 2011, 22:46:08 »

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Much better access if you ditch the standard engine and fit a GSX-R engine instead: ....

The standard 80bhp engine is lacking in torque, I'd imagine a bike engine would be even worse.  :-/ :-/
The 2010 gsxr1000 engine has a claimed 190bhp,only 87 torques though.Sounds like a lot of fun to me. ;)
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« Reply #20 on: 03 February 2011, 09:10:28 »

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lol i have to do the starter motor on a smart soon, average time to do it is?????
6 hours!!!! just about everything and anything has to come off to get to it including intercooler, shrouding, various electrical plugs and sensors removed offside engine mounting then drop the engine down as far as you can go then if your very very lucky you can wriggle it out of the gap that appears, if your not the engine other side has to come down to give more room, merc reckon you have to drop the engine out!!!


Blimey!! :o :o :o   So what some local mechanics told my nail lady was correct.  They all said they were a pig to work on, and they wouldn't!! :o :o :o

From what you say it is even worse than working on an original Mini, and that could be a right pain!! ::) ::) ::) :-X :-X

Liz i would welcome doing a head gasket on aclassic mini rather than doing a smart!!!, next time you see you nail lady just ask her to show you the engine, and see if you can spot the starter motor!! :y


Will do OT, as I must admit I have never seen one! :y :y :y
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« Reply #21 on: 03 February 2011, 09:12:53 »

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lol i have to do the starter motor on a smart soon, average time to do it is?????
6 hours!!!! just about everything and anything has to come off to get to it including intercooler, shrouding, various electrical plugs and sensors removed offside engine mounting then drop the engine down as far as you can go then if your very very lucky you can wriggle it out of the gap that appears, if your not the engine other side has to come down to give more room, merc reckon you have to drop the engine out!!!


Blimey!! :o :o :o   So what some local mechanics told my nail lady was correct.  They all said they were a pig to work on, and they wouldn't!! :o :o :o

From what you say it is even worse than working on an original Mini, and that could be a right pain!! ::) ::) ::) :-X :-X

Liz i would welcome doing a head gasket on aclassic mini rather than doing a smart!!!, next time you see you nail lady just ask her to show you the engine, and see if you can spot the starter motor!! :y

If access is as good as on a Roadster, when  you remove the engine cover, you're lucky to see anything at all.  ;D ;D ;D

Much better access if you ditch the standard engine and fit a GSX-R engine instead:



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One shock after another Aaron;  how on earth do you work on that engine? :o :o :o :o
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« Reply #22 on: 03 February 2011, 09:24:12 »

I cannot wait to see a Smartcar engine live, so I have looked up some pictures.

First the lovely, cute little car, with a great driver!! :D :D :D



then the engine in its compartment:



What!!  I see what Omegatoy means!!  Bugger working on that!! :o :o :o :o
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« Reply #23 on: 03 February 2011, 09:39:49 »

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One shock after another Aaron;  how on earth do you work on that engine? :o :o :o :o

I think most of the bike-engine conversions come with a tubular subframe at the rear, so I'm guessing step one for anything except the very top of the engine (intake trumpets & plug leads!) is going to be 'remove the engine' - just like the Porsche Boxter, in fact, where all you can do is check the oil without dropping the engine (so I hear)!
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Re: Smartcar NOT so Smart!!
« Reply #24 on: 03 February 2011, 09:48:40 »

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then the engine in its compartment:



<Looks to see if he can spot the "Briggs and Stratton" logo>  :D
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Re: Smartcar NOT so Smart!!
« Reply #25 on: 03 February 2011, 10:19:22 »

Not much a daily driver with the bike engine fitted though.....and with full rebuilds every 10K miles to!

They are hateful things for daily use these little Smart cars, pretty noisey and unrefined.

I think they may have a place for inner city use.
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« Reply #26 on: 03 February 2011, 11:10:07 »

It would have to used pretty hard to need a rebuild after 10k miles. Engines in road bikes (even little 600 screamers) can normally go way past 50k with nothing more than regular servicing. ;)
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Re: Smartcar NOT so Smart!!
« Reply #27 on: 03 February 2011, 11:16:00 »

Remember they are not WWD
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Re: Smartcar NOT so Smart!!
« Reply #28 on: 03 February 2011, 11:20:56 »

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It would have to used pretty hard to need a rebuild after 10k miles. Engines in road bikes (even little 600 screamers) can normally go way past 50k with nothing more than regular servicing. ;)

Yes, and it will be.

Your no longer shifting a few hundred kilos, your moving 3-4 times that!

So it will be working VERY hard
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Re: Smartcar NOT so Smart!!
« Reply #29 on: 03 February 2011, 11:25:48 »

Sky do special versions, just for Daz  pink :y

Edit, d'oh need to re-upload images


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