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[Lazydocker]

.... And I haven't cooked them.

Really? Are you sure?

well I suppose it's difficult to tell 

But yes I am sure. 

Strange though... Mine seem ok but I suppose it depends what they're being compared to :-/

[feeutfo]

.... And I haven't cooked them.

Really? Are you sure?

well I suppose it's difficult to tell 

But yes I am sure. 

Strange though... Mine seem ok but I suppose it depends what they're being compared to :-/

They're better than no brakes at all I suppose.  :-/

[feeutfo]

I don't think TB grasped the difference when he drove my old car with oe, he never used anything other than 100% braking.

[Grrrrrr]

I used to have the spec of what went into one company's pad material. just been searching my PC but cannot find it. It is not an exact science to be an understatement. The ingredient that stood out to me was cashew nut shells. For someone to put cashew nut shells in he must have been looking for inspiration! I'd guess massive variation possible between manufacturers and possibly reasonable variation between batches.

[TheBoy]

.... And I haven't cooked them.

Really? Are you sure?

well I suppose it's difficult to tell 

But yes I am sure. 

To knacker the TC ones, you have to really cook them. Way beyond the point where the pad loses its bit, almost to the point where the pedal starts to get very close to the floor. Apparently

At this point, they are shot, they will never regain a good 'bite'


IMHO, due to the soft (thus dusty) nature of them, they bed in quite quickly.

Also, I find TC pads really need changing before you hit the wear sensor, as they are more prone to overheating once about half worn.  The damn things are so cheap, I tend to do it before they need to be done as a matter of course. I find new pads have good stopping ability after just a few miles, and are ready for some abuse within a couple of days (120 miles).


I suspect chrisgixer's issue is not the capability of the pad to stop the car, but more the feedback he feels he is not getting from them, or perhaps the initial grab when applying gently.

[TheBoy]

I don't think TB grasped the difference when he drove my old car with oe, he never used anything other than 100% braking.

Want to go faster, turn on the right hand switch, want to go slower, turn on the left (or middle if that way inclined) switch.

Simples.