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[feeutfo]

Snetterton? Trust me there's nothing exciting about that place, old circuit at least, they have added some new infield sections and altered the last chicane I hear. I'll swap you the bombhole for the old dingle dell at brands before it was altered to it's present form, how's that?

Btw we have some work to do, this diy circuit needs to be longer, much longer!

Going by the tv coverage turn 9 at Turkeys F1 circuit should in, and a good portion of Spa.

[TheBoy]

Ah, spa

Great before they ruined the end of it

[henryd]

Ah, spa

Great before they ruined the end of it

Agreed,but at least it still got eau rouge 

[albitz]

Just reinstate the old Nurburgring, and whoever is brave enough to turn up and have a go wins the world championship.
My money would be on Hamilton.

[tonyyeb]

I reckon the LMP would have stopped quicker if it was in contact with the ground. Yes, they are faster than a GT car but also a lot lighter. Overall energy at impact is probably not much different, IMHO.

But, agreed. Driver safety seems to have been cracked these days. Time to consider other aspects of how to allow the cars to be raced to their full potential reasonably safely.

It has to be said, since the LMPs were downgraded in power they seem more unsettled. In both cases, a relatively light touch caused the car to just take off.  :-/

Name me a short circuit that meets that same level? Silverstone does, according to drivers and riders alike, although I don't think crowd are as keen. Saxon ring maybe in some sections. Lagunas cork screw section, the rest of that circuit us just a means to go back up to the cork screw for another go... Er, and now I'm struggling.

They need to build something worthy of the call. We need it desperately....   IMO.

OK, not originally a short circuit, but it has become one - Spa.
Still a supreme test of courage, full of overtaking opportunities and always full of drama.

(Also, allow me a little pedantry - it's 'Sachsenring', not 'Saxon Ring'  )

[Hannah Judes Dad]

Just reinstate the old Nurburgring, and whoever is brave enough to turn up and have a go wins the world championship.
My money would be on Hamilton.

Schumacher might show some of his old form if this to be re-instated  (cheating kraut that robbed Damon Hill in Australia)

[albitz]

I think we have seen his real level of ability since his comeback.
He now has to (supposedly)drive with in the rules and has to drive a car which has been built to the same rules as all the other cars.

[Hannah Judes Dad]

Perhaps his previous cars had 'Ride of the Valkyries' played through the pit to car radio to get him in the mood for 'smashingracing' with other drivers.

[albitz]

They certainly had traction control (among other things) while it was banned.

[Chris_H]

Viewing figures dont indicate quality though. If they did we could assume Corry/ eastenders are the best programmes on TV ever.

But they do indicate popularity - and F1 is never going to change radically to please the (I suspect minority of) people who wish it was 1964 while viewing figures are going up, because viewing figures equals income for Bernie

Not 1964. 1979 will do for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kre35Pct0yA

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl2tIFxSEGA&NR=1[/media]

In terms of "progress" this race was pretty historically significant. It was the first ever F1 race won by a 1500cc turbocar, but no-one remembers that. Everyone remembers the massive (but fair) duel between two very determined drivers.

The important difference in that race was that they could bang wheels without critical components falling off.  Wheels obviously stayed on, tracking must have stayed good enough, no aero parts got sprayed round the track.

I agree that DRS is too false although it simulates exciting racing.

If legislation focussed on strength of components that might help, although it's that very fragility that has contributed to the safety improvements.

[feeutfo]

An Technician( Edit...bloody DTM had been playing with the word filter hasn't he!  originally posted as E N G I N E E R ) would consider his job well done if the car expired in all aspects the momment it crossed the Finish line! Fuel ran out, engine expired, bits fell off just at the right moment to win the race. Strong and durable enough to finish, and light enough to get there as quick as possible , so the DUMB ARSE DRIVER DIDNT NEED TO DRIVE INTO STUFF in order to win. Strong enough and light enough, no more, no less. 

It was interesting to see the Le'man pit crews handle their  cars in the pits. Clime all over it to clean the screen, pulling on wing mirrors to handle the car into the pit garage. Do that on an F1 car and it would snap off various parts instantly.... And so it should at 1.5 hours a race, or whatever, versus 24 hours of Le'man.

It's formula 1 and it's moved on from coal fired boilers and steam barely out of Black and White Tv.

[albitz]

And sold its soul somewhere along the way.

[feeutfo]

To the Devil side swipe that is Bernie Ecclestone!

[Hannah Judes Dad]

To the Devil arse wipe that is Bernie Ecclestone!