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[Amigo]

Yeah i know it's been done over & over again, but, the first one ifitted was a Pipercross to my green 2.5 CD, then put it on the Beastie. Lot's of love & lots of ridicule. All i know is on a V6 Mig they sound great but admit there is little if any power difference. Just bought a K&N kit for the MX5, £62 with cold air feed kit & free P&P. On the box it said guaranteed BHP & acceleration increase. I thought this was a brave promise from a well known company given the legal implications. Does'nt sound as fruity as the Mig did although there is a bark but it's got a huge push @ 3500/4000 rpm in every gear. She flys now, it's realy woken her up. Can't wait to do the exhaust, manifold & do away with the cat.

  No wonder Pete's surprised us all @ the Yorkmeet.

[hercules]

Yeah i know it's been done over & over again, but, the first one ifitted was a Pipercross to my green 2.5 CD, then put it on the Beastie. Lot's of love & lots of ridicule. All i know is on a V6 Mig they sound great but admit there is little if any power difference. Just bought a K&N kit for the MX5, £62 with cold air feed kit & free P&P. On the box it said guaranteed BHP & acceleration increase. I thought this was a brave promise from a well known company given the legal implications. Does'nt sound as fruity as the Mig did although there is a bark but it's got a huge push @ 3500/4000 rpm in every gear. She flys now, it's realy woken her up. Can't wait to do the exhaust, manifold & do away with the cat.

  No wonder Pete's surprised us all @ the Yorkmeet.

whats happened with the york meet,last year i was gonna go and it got cancelled and this year nowts been said

[Amigo]

Hello matey. Ian_D. usually arranged the Yorkmeet as he knows the keyholder & provided the marquees & more. I know he's up for another meet but a new job limits his time off.

  I'll try & contact him. Guy.

[Elite Pete]

I did the same mods Guy, 4-2-1 manifold, de cat, stainless twin exit exhaust and a pipercross induction kit. It really does make a difference

[Elite Pete]

Just to add, you should keep your eyes open for a supercharger or turbo kit, now that will wake it up a bit

[TheBoy]

A good induction can change some cars, though never seen an improvement to Omegas.

The Black Beastie has reverted to the standard setup to try to get some of the lost power back.  I have another spin in it today, but TheDaddy wouldn't let me turn traction control off, and it caught every single attempt for me to 'have myself some fun'

[Broomies Mate]

Yeah i know it's been done over & over again, but, the first one ifitted was a Pipercross to my green 2.5 CD, then put it on the Beastie. Lot's of love & lots of ridicule. All i know is on a V6 Mig they sound great but admit there is little if any power difference. Just bought a K&N kit for the MX5, £62 with cold air feed kit & free P&P. On the box it said guaranteed BHP & acceleration increase. I thought this was a brave promise from a well known company given the legal implications. Does'nt sound as fruity as the Mig did although there is a bark but it's got a huge push @ 3500/4000 rpm in every gear. She flys now, it's realy woken her up. Can't wait to do the exhaust, manifold & do away with the cat.

  No wonder Pete's surprised us all @ the Yorkmeet.

Ridicule of Induction Kits is primarily due to the fact that people actually believe what they read on the packet.

Here is a simple fact.  Engines require air to run, the colder the air the better.  The more air, the more fuel can be pumped in to keep the 'balance' and therefore increase performance.

However, most 'Induction Kits' on sale are a simple cone filter which are coated with an oil.  These filters tend to be mounted without protection from the heat produced by the engine.  This means the induction is sucking warm/hot air and not the cold air which is preferential.  Furthermore, the oil which coat these filters invariably damages the sensitive sensors which detect the quantity of air entering the engine.

Manufacturers spend millions and millions of pounds on R&D.  Whilst not having conclusive proof, I'd bet my virgin arsehole on them actually trying the above mentioned filters.  They always revert back to the 'panel' filter.  There must be a reason for this.

All of the above I have written not directly at you, but at the majority of people who think a cone filter IZ DA MUTTZ INIT!   

[Amigo]

It's all on the cards Pete. I just wanted to redress the balance. Back when i fitted the duccie kit to my old 2.5 folk were divided. Some loved some said it was pointless on a Mig.
   rather' works on an 1800 MX5 without a doubt. Midrange punch puts you back in the seat, duccie kits DO work on some cars, argue all you like...but they do! 8-)

[Broomies Mate]

It's all on the cards Pete. I just wanted to redress the balance. Back when i fitted the duccie kit to my old 2.5 folk were divided. Some loved some said it was pointless on a Mig.
   rather' works on an 1800 MX5 without a doubt. Midrange punch puts you back in the seat, duccie kits DO work on some cars, argue all you like...but they do! 8-)

I had amazing results with a cone filter (protected with Cold Air Feed) on a 1989 1.5 12v Mitsubishi Colt.  I had reasonable results (again protected with cold air feed) on a Mk5 1.6 Escort.

Flip side, negative results with a K&N Panel filter on a 2.5V6 Vectra B and also 3.0V6 Omega.

Extraordinarily bad results with a cone filter (with cold air feed, not protected) on a 2.0 16v Vectra B.

I'd never say never, but I very much doubt I'll be trying my hand at improving on 'modern' design in the near future. 

[Amigo]

Yeah i know it's been done over & over again, but, the first one ifitted was a Pipercross to my green 2.5 CD, then put it on the Beastie. Lot's of love & lots of ridicule. All i know is on a V6 Mig they sound great but admit there is little if any power difference. Just bought a K&N kit for the MX5, £62 with cold air feed kit & free P&P. On the box it said guaranteed BHP & acceleration increase. I thought this was a brave promise from a well known company given the legal implications. Does'nt sound as fruity as the Mig did although there is a bark but it's got a huge push @ 3500/4000 rpm in every gear. She flys now, it's realy woken her up. Can't wait to do the exhaust, manifold & do away with the cat.

  No wonder Pete's surprised us all @ the Yorkmeet.

Ridicule of Induction Kits is primarily due to the fact that people actually believe what they read on the packet.

Here is a simple fact.  Engines require air to run, the colder the air the better.  The more air, the more fuel can be pumped in to keep the 'balance' and therefore increase performance.

However, most 'Induction Kits' on sale are a simple cone filter which are coated with an oil.  These filters tend to be mounted without protection from the heat produced by the engine.  This means the induction is sucking warm/hot air and not the cold air which is preferential.  Furthermore, the oil which coat these filters invariably damages the sensitive sensors which detect the quantity of air entering the engine.

Manufacturers spend millions and millions of pounds on R&D.  Whilst not having conclusive proof, I'd bet my virgin arsehole on them actually trying the above mentioned filters.  They always revert back to the 'panel' filter.  There must be a reason for this.

All of the above I have written not directly at you, but at the majority of people who think a cone filter IZ DA MUTTZ INIT!   

OK Broomie. I'm a 48 year old white boy who does'nt talk street...innit & have enough years, oval /banger racing miles under my belt not to be taken in by a silly noisy gimmicks. I've raced & run modded Minis track & road. I'm still far from an expert but you get the idea. As said on V6 Migs sounded great but no real difference. The MX5 gave little difference in sound but without doubt is noticably quicker midrange & it's not a placebo or my imagination, stuff the tekky spec.....

   IT WORKS...JUST TRIED IT! 8-)

[Lazydocker]

Agreed... On some cars they can work, if fitted correctly with the cold air feed.

[Amigo]

Agreed... On some cars they can work, if fitted correctly with the cold air feed.

Evening Paul. How are you?

[Vamps]

Many years ago, again on blue oval cars we just to remove the air filter all together, perhaps put some gauze across the intake to stop any stones getting in.... Used to sound great, really throaty....

[Lazydocker]

Agreed... On some cars they can work, if fitted correctly with the cold air feed.

Evening Paul. How are you?

Not too bad thanks Guy... Counting down to hospital next week

[Amigo]

A good induction can change some cars, though never seen an improvement to Omegas.

The Black Beastie has reverted to the standard setup to try to get some of the lost power back.  I have another spin in it today, but TheDaddy wouldn't let me turn traction control off, and it caught every single attempt for me to 'have myself some fun'

I accept duccie kits on V6 Migs sound the part but that's about it which is why i sold her with the standard airbox. Hope she's doing Tony well & he's keeping her clean..i know where he lives...i should've disabled the TC button!"