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Re: Pipercross installed today!! Sounds Sooooo Nice!!
« Reply #30 on: 30 July 2008, 22:50:37 »

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No Noise on idle, If driven nomally you can't hear it at all, only when you put your foot down and under load.

This is just right for me as I don't want loads of noise all the time, it would just get annoying!




I it like this???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4JNg6sUqRU&feature=related


love that - but when i fitted mine it was a bit noisy so chucked it back in the garage - might have to get it back out ::)


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Re: Pipercross installed today!! Sounds Sooooo Nice!!
« Reply #31 on: 31 July 2008, 14:26:13 »

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If you don't oil the filter like me then you won't have the MAF problem, just have to remember to take if off once in a while and give it a shake!!

Problem is these filters rely on the oil to retain all the muck they have filtered out and prevent it entering the engine. I would oil it, myself, as it'll be filtering the air very poorly if dry. Just don't go mad with the oil.

Kevin


Hmmm, Something  to think about!! I might give it a quick spray!!
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Re: Pipercross installed today!! Sounds Sooooo Nice!!
« Reply #32 on: 31 July 2008, 14:56:39 »

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No Noise on idle, If driven nomally you can't hear it at all, only when you put your foot down and under load.

This is just right for me as I don't want loads of noise all the time, it would just get annoying!




I it like this???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4JNg6sUqRU&feature=related


love that - but when i fitted mine it was a bit noisy so chucked it back in the garage - might have to get it back out ::)







Or.... if you want to sell it  ::) ::) ::) :y
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Re: Pipercross installed today!! Sounds Sooooo Nice!!
« Reply #33 on: 31 July 2008, 20:36:58 »

Do'nt care, i'm a big tart & i love 'em. No power gain but the induction roar is to die for. However not for everyone so original airbox & filter will go back on before sale of car. New mot £600 to OOF member.
    (I'll put the pipercross on the new one)
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Re: Pipercross installed today!! Sounds Sooooo Nice!!
« Reply #34 on: 31 July 2008, 20:40:23 »

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Do'nt care, i'm a big tart & i love 'em. No power gain but the induction roar is to die for. However not for everyone so original airbox & filter will go back on before sale of car. New mot £600 to OOF member.
    (I'll put the pipercross on the new one)

thought you was keeping schtum  ::) ::) ::)
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« Reply #35 on: 31 July 2008, 21:17:55 »

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Do'nt care, i'm a big tart & i love 'em. No power gain but the induction roar is to die for. However not for everyone so original airbox & filter will go back on before sale of car. New mot £600 to OOF member.
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thought you was keeping schtum  ::) ::) ::)
I am about the new one. 8-)
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Re: Pipercross installed today!! Sounds Sooooo Nice!!
« Reply #36 on: 31 July 2008, 21:21:59 »

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Do'nt care, i'm a big tart & i love 'em. No power gain but the induction roar is to die for. However not for everyone so original airbox & filter will go back on before sale of car. New mot £600 to OOF member.
    (I'll put the pipercross on the new one)

thought you was keeping schtum  ::) ::) ::)
I am about the new one. 8-)

ok then  :D ;)
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« Reply #37 on: 31 July 2008, 21:32:58 »

That's the side effect - Piercross/K&N etc filters DO rely on the oil to catch the dirt.  Sadly the oil will trash a hot wire AFM - maybe not immediately, but its lifespan will be shortened by a horrific amount...

Think about it - the dust particles need to be retained somehow.  Paper filters are disposable for a reason.  Foam/cotton ones use oil as the air holes are bigger (we are talking microns here, BTW) and are oiled as the path through them for the air is convoluted.  Dust doesn't like travelling round bends (unlike air), so gets stuck in the oil.
Oil does get transferred off the filter and into the airstream.  As all air goes through the AFM, some gets stuck to the hot wire air flow sensor.  Note the word hot...what happens when oil hits a hot metal surface?  Look at a proper chinese wok..  :-?

When the hot wire gets coated with oily residue (the same muck you have to clean off your throttle body occasionally), it reduces the cooling effect of the air that passes past it - air that the ECU tthinks is entering the engine - so the ECU injects less fuel.  Good?  Until the ECu thinks there cannot be this little air going in, so flags up a MAF/AFM fault or two...or a Lambda fault, as the weak mixture measured at the exhaust can't be corrected within its limits, so you get fuel trim faults..etc, etc, etc...

When I need a higher flowing air filter on a car, i looks at a car with something bigger and use that cars larger filter.  Not a Mig, but Mini magazine did a test with the stock filter (and housing) vs every other filter on the market.  The standard one won by a comfortable margin..

OK, you can't replicate the noise easily, but the old airbox drilling technique still gives the noise as long as it can still get cold air!
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« Reply #38 on: 31 July 2008, 21:34:40 »

Yeah but it sounds good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]
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« Reply #39 on: 27 June 2011, 02:03:25 »

Do you know any member on this forum that has installed pipercross viper induction kit? I want to ask him to make video about engine sound, and post it. If there is such video please send me link...
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Re: Pipercross installed today!! Sounds Sooooo Nice!!
« Reply #40 on: 27 June 2011, 09:11:56 »

Cough cough, were did this one come from  ;D
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Re: Pipercross installed today!! Sounds Sooooo Nice!!
« Reply #41 on: 27 June 2011, 09:57:27 »

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Cough cough, were did this one come from  ;D
2008  :o ;)
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« Reply #42 on: 30 June 2011, 23:08:54 »

Sorry guys, I'm a little bit noob about these kind of things. :)
Just help me. If I got this right(now) pipercross viper induction kit is a thermal insulating cone "box" (miss the word so I used term "box"), in which comes a cone air filter. But is the filter integrated inside of a cone box, or can put any cone air filter I want (with proper dimensions of course)?
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Re: Pipercross installed today!! Sounds Sooooo Nice!!
« Reply #43 on: 02 July 2011, 09:26:39 »

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Sorry guys, I'm a little bit noob about these kind of things. :)
Just help me. If I got this right(now) pipercross viper induction kit is a thermal insulating cone "box" (miss the word so I used term "box"), in which comes a cone air filter. But is the filter integrated inside of a cone box, or can put any cone air filter I want (with proper dimensions of course)?
I believe the pipercross is just a standard cone type filter, with no specific help to keep engine heat out.
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« Reply #44 on: 02 July 2011, 09:31:51 »

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Sorry guys, I'm a little bit noob about these kind of things. :)
Just help me. If I got this right(now) pipercross viper induction kit is a thermal insulating cone "box" (miss the word so I used term "box"), in which comes a cone air filter. But is the filter integrated inside of a cone box, or can put any cone air filter I want (with proper dimensions of course)?
I believe the pipercross is just a standard cone type filter, with no specific help to keep engine heat out.

http://www.pipercross.net/fastroad/products_viper.asp

Nope, it's a fully enclosed cone filter, if you go look up the product cure2fast is talking about ;)

cure2fast - I can't see why you couldn't replace the filter inside there with a different kind, assuming it'll physically fit.. although if Pipercross still use foam filters I imagine they flow pretty well (albeit lack filtration)
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