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Re: bugger
« Reply #15 on: 15 July 2007, 10:56:02 »

As a temp fix, you could try some of this 'liquid metal' type glue. I haven't had need of it myself for a while (like 20 years ;D) but I.m sure its still knocking about.
Before you use it however, you would have to make sure that the drain hole was completely free of oil/grease, which might not be that easy.
It should be ok for a while but, of course, is likely to make the permanent repair, when you come to do it, a bit more difficult.

Good luck.
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Re: bugger
« Reply #16 on: 15 July 2007, 10:56:31 »

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It's no good trying to retap for the same size sump bolt. The hole in the sump will now be oversize and you'll just make it looser.
When you say the thread 'fell out', it makes me think that there was a steel insert pressed into the alloy sump and its this that has come adrift. More info please Mark.
No, he needs to retap next size up - we think his is M14 thread, so M16 next size up.

So, drill 12.5 (? would need to check), then tap with 16x2, buy new 16x2 bolt.
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« Reply #17 on: 15 July 2007, 10:57:47 »

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It's no good trying to retap for the same size sump bolt. The hole in the sump will now be oversize and you'll just make it looser.
When you say the thread 'fell out', it makes me think that there was a steel insert pressed into the alloy sump and its this that has come adrift. More info please Mark.
No, he needs to retap next size up - we think his is M14 thread, so M16 next size up.

So, drill 12.5 (? would need to check), then tap with 16x2, buy new 16x2 bolt.

Yep, but for speed.........????

OH, and stop rather overtightening bolts you people :P
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Re: bugger
« Reply #18 on: 15 July 2007, 11:03:28 »

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It's no good trying to retap for the same size sump bolt. The hole in the sump will now be oversize and you'll just make it looser.
When you say the thread 'fell out', it makes me think that there was a steel insert pressed into the alloy sump and its this that has come adrift. More info please Mark.
No, he needs to retap next size up - we think his is M14 thread, so M16 next size up.

So, drill 12.5 (? would need to check), then tap with 16x2, buy new 16x2 bolt.

Yep, but for speed.........????

OH, and stop rather overtightening bolts you people :P
You can always rely on Tunnie to overtighten/strip/shear bolts ;D - I'm surprised he didn't ruin oil thermostat bolt, trying to undo it the wrong way ;D
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« Reply #19 on: 15 July 2007, 11:08:24 »

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It's no good trying to retap for the same size sump bolt. The hole in the sump will now be oversize and you'll just make it looser.
When you say the thread 'fell out', it makes me think that there was a steel insert pressed into the alloy sump and its this that has come adrift. More info please Mark.
No, he needs to retap next size up - we think his is M14 thread, so M16 next size up.

So, drill 12.5 (? would need to check), then tap with 16x2, buy new 16x2 bolt.

Yep, but for speed.........????

OH, and stop rather overtightening bolts you people :P
You can always rely on Tunnie to overtighten/strip/shear bolts ;D - I'm surprised he didn't ruin oil thermostat bolt, trying to undo it the wrong way ;D

 ;D ;D ;D :y

In that case, I dont think he should be attempting to drill a large hole and tap it, nice and straight, whilst underneath a 1.7 tonne car at an angle of 30 degrees. :o
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« Reply #20 on: 15 July 2007, 11:11:22 »

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It's no good trying to retap for the same size sump bolt. The hole in the sump will now be oversize and you'll just make it looser.
When you say the thread 'fell out', it makes me think that there was a steel insert pressed into the alloy sump and its this that has come adrift. More info please Mark.
No, he needs to retap next size up - we think his is M14 thread, so M16 next size up.

So, drill 12.5 (? would need to check), then tap with 16x2, buy new 16x2 bolt.

Yep, but for speed.........????

OH, and stop rather overtightening bolts you people :P
You can always rely on Tunnie to overtighten/strip/shear bolts ;D - I'm surprised he didn't ruin oil thermostat bolt, trying to undo it the wrong way ;D

 ;D ;D ;D :y

In that case, I dont think he should be attempting to drill a large hole and tap it, nice and straight, whilst underneath a 1.7 tonne car at an angle of 30 degrees. :o
All joking aside, I think he would be good at tapping, as he can be meticulous and patient (the latter not being my forte ::))
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Re: bugger
« Reply #21 on: 15 July 2007, 11:18:56 »

i don't have the skill to tap it out... trouble is if i take it out, to arradite it up. I will do more damage.

If the leak stays the same, maybe gettings a little more under thinner oil. I can live with that, just checking the level every day. I was planning to anyway....
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Re: bugger
« Reply #22 on: 15 July 2007, 11:21:01 »

And if the plug decides to unscrew while your flogging it down an autobahn, you're in deep sh1t.
You really need to sort it before you go Mark.
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« Reply #23 on: 15 July 2007, 11:38:20 »

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And if the plug decides to unscrew while your flogging it down an autobahn, you're in deep sh1t.
You really need to sort it before you go Mark.


 :( :( :(

Any ideas on something i can use to seal it for now?
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« Reply #24 on: 15 July 2007, 11:40:04 »

If you're going to nail it across europe and then scrap it afterwards.... then weld it up  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Seriously though, if the threads shagged.. you'll need to helicoil or rethread it...
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« Reply #25 on: 15 July 2007, 11:44:05 »

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And if the plug decides to unscrew while your flogging it down an autobahn, you're in deep sh1t.
You really need to sort it before you go Mark.


 :( :( :(

Any ideas on something i can use to seal it for now?

I've just said, haven't I  ::)
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« Reply #26 on: 15 July 2007, 11:47:23 »

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i don't have the skill to tap it out... .

Yes you do mate, it's a peice of cake.....
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« Reply #27 on: 15 July 2007, 12:02:46 »

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i don't have the skill to tap it out... .

Yes you do mate, it's a peice of cake.....

Welding it up did come across my mind!

Does anyone here have a range of large tap sets?? - Next Saturday is the last day i can do it, i am willing to drive to anyone who has the sets and appropriate skills!
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« Reply #28 on: 15 July 2007, 12:06:48 »

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i don't have the skill to tap it out... .

Yes you do mate, it's a peice of cake.....

Welding it up did come across my mind!

Does anyone here have a range of large tap sets?? - Next Saturday is the last day i can do it, i am willing to drive to anyone who has the sets and appropriate skills!

There is a chance I'm off work that day....
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Re: bugger
« Reply #29 on: 15 July 2007, 12:25:46 »

you mean to say your willing to drive all the way to trowbridge in wiltshire for a m14 helicoil kit  when i could simply send it to you  by post tomorrow? ;D ;D
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