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Strange little cold starting issue today
« on: 19 November 2006, 10:17:50 »

Cant quite fathom this out.....

Went to start mv6 and it sounded initially like it was almost totally flat, after cranking for a few seconds its started to sound healthier but still not starting. Took about 15 seconds like this before it fired into lift. Now its -0.5 on the MID so freezing. However its not been far off that all week and i have never experienced it ( car always starts on turn of key)

Okay so i stopped it and restarted it and it fired immediatley - no signs anywhere of a flat battery - oh and battery is good and car is used every day.

So it must be damp or cold then,,,, :-/ yeah thats it....

Well thats what i thought BUT when car started i was asked to enter code for radio - suggesting an electrical break....

Any thoughts??? Its never happened before  :-/
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Re: Strange little cold starting issue today
« Reply #1 on: 19 November 2006, 10:32:29 »

The radio code does indicate that it's lost it's battery at some point

Sure your battery connections are all good? And the battery is good?

It needs a godo battery to crank that V6, especially on a cold day!
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Re: Strange little cold starting issue today
« Reply #2 on: 19 November 2006, 10:36:44 »

hmmmmm battery wasnt good - but taken out 6 weeks ago and fully charged over 3 days.

Since then its been spot on and the car has been used daily - thing is, once it fired up it sounded perfect as usual. May just go buy a GO from vx seeing as i now have my trade card  :-/

Ive noticed in the past little things that tell me the battery is low ( sure we all have) like the windows get slower and the warning bleep when your lights are on when the keys are out the ignition gets a little slower sounding but everything seems fine in that sense this morning....
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Re: Strange little cold starting issue today
« Reply #3 on: 19 November 2006, 13:19:53 »

Sounds like battery shafted.  Battery efficiency drops with temperature, so its coming to light now that its got a bit nippy....
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Re: Strange little cold starting issue today
« Reply #4 on: 19 November 2006, 21:42:19 »

Battery may well be on it's way out BUT.............................

I had a similar sort of thing last week with my V6.  It took a long time to fire, a good deal longer than normal.  I was talking to my mum at the time and when it started, she said "I thought that it was not going to go".

There was no evidence of a power loss, radio still had it' memory etc.

This is the first time that the car has done this, and a new battery (Vaux GO) was fitted earlier this year.  All very strange and it has not, touch wood, done it since.

Any thoughts???
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Re: Strange little cold starting issue today
« Reply #5 on: 19 November 2006, 21:45:56 »

The thing that makes me think its the battery (esp with the cold snap up in Scotland) is that Markiec said it seemed flat.
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Re: Strange little cold starting issue today
« Reply #6 on: 19 November 2006, 21:51:13 »

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The thing that makes me think its the battery (esp with the cold snap up in Scotland) is that Markiec said it seemed flat.

Shrewd diagnosis.....
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Re: Strange little cold starting issue today
« Reply #7 on: 19 November 2006, 21:52:11 »

Same symptoms as mine a while ago Markie. My battery was fine but low output from alternator
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Re: Strange little cold starting issue today
« Reply #8 on: 19 November 2006, 22:53:58 »

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The thing that makes me think its the battery (esp with the cold snap up in Scotland) is that Markiec said it seemed flat.

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Re: Strange little cold starting issue today
« Reply #9 on: 19 November 2006, 23:15:00 »

   Sounds to me like a cell is on it way out :(, not taking a full load!!!

 Only takes a good cold snap to catch you out :exclamation.

 Hope you get it sorted, nothing worse than messing about on a cold morning.
  
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Re: Strange little cold starting issue today
« Reply #10 on: 19 November 2006, 23:42:28 »

wel i have got a battery of batteries in the er garage. I remembered this as i set the fireworks off next to the garage a few weeks back  :o

But for my own car its gotta be a new one so i `ll go spend a few pennies this week on a new one  :y

Thanks Guys - never thought the cold would affect this - if only id use my garage for my daily cars instead of projects it could be tucked up at night  :(
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Re: Strange little cold starting issue today
« Reply #11 on: 20 November 2006, 06:30:57 »

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The thing that makes me think its the battery (esp with the cold snap up in Scotland) is that Markiec said it seemed flat.

Shrewd diagnosis.....

Only thing im not sure about is that Markiec says it sounded better after a few secs, so presumably it started to crank over faster.......which is the opposite id expect from a knackered battery  :-/
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Re: Strange little cold starting issue today
« Reply #12 on: 20 November 2006, 09:27:48 »

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The thing that makes me think its the battery (esp with the cold snap up in Scotland) is that Markiec said it seemed flat.

Shrewd diagnosis.....

Only thing im not sure about is that Markiec says it sounded better after a few secs, so presumably it started to crank over faster.......which is the opposite id expect from a knackered battery  :-/


this is true Dave - for a few seconds i was thinking oh oh flat battery, as i was about to take key out to get jumps i noticed it suddenly started to sound more positive. After about ten seconds it sounded fine, turning over ok, just not starting.

Then Blam! Off it went.

I stopped and started it 3 times immedatley after that without driving - and every time it started as normal ( within a few seconds)
Havent been out yet so will report back todays starting situation - its just as cold today !

No rush though i have 7 days off on holiday.
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Re: Strange little cold starting issue today
« Reply #13 on: 20 November 2006, 10:44:20 »

Could this be a possible problem with either the crank sensor or starter motor perhaps a sticky solenoid.

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Re: Strange little cold starting issue today
« Reply #14 on: 20 November 2006, 12:55:59 »

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Could this be a possible problem with either the crank sensor or starter motor perhaps a sticky solenoid.


Crank sensor - look for a hidden voodoo bratz doll  ;D
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