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Re: THE DREADED LEAKY CAM COVERS..V6
« Reply #15 on: 30 March 2007, 11:10:17 »

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No oil in plug holes..just the slightest weep on drivers side right at the back and falling on large chrome pipe..then burning off..passenger side is similar position again at back but not the same burning..expect the exhaust doesn,t rin that way..when they were replaced some 12 days ago and 1100 miles oil and filter were both replaced so oil is still very clean.....I was assured that whilst all parts were removed all pipes etc were cleaned,so as no expert must rely on my mechanics honesty..any way seems strange if he didnt do job correctly as he has now said he will do it all again f.o.c..but did suggest that it may be the covers which are warped and if i bought those he would replace them at same time.....going back to these breathers etc..as i am no mechanic but can follow instructions is this a job that could be done by a total novice,as you have now set my mind thinking that another week/another days lost work/the cost of the covers which might be needed or not...still to find a leak..or should i just tell him to do the breathers as per the instructions i found on the forum??..all these decisions!!!and all i want is no oil smell.

Print the instructions and point the breathers out to him if I were you, it doesn't take long to blast the crap out of the hoses with carb cleaner and a hose.  Just make sure he doesn't go mental spraying cleaner into the breather box (drivers side, just below the camcover closest to the road wheel (its metal) and the electrical box next to it needs the smallest of squirts on the pipe you remove there that goes to the plenum on top.

Mine were totally clear, and already 10 days later have loads of crap in, so its probably just the system clearing itself out, I'll be doing the breathers again this weekend myself.  I notice you're in Kent, if you are coming anywhere near Newbury this weekend I'd be happy to blast them out for you, would only take an hour to give them a good shot through if that.

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« Reply #16 on: 30 March 2007, 22:56:27 »

Thanks Chris..really kind gesture..unfortunatley working all week/end as most so will be down bottom end of kent..have got car lined up for new(2nd set ) of gaskets week on tuesday..have managed to source a further set of rocker covers for £25=00 of another member so will have those replaced at same time....it would be more likley to win all the lotteries than have 2 sets warped (famous last words )..have also printed out "how to "for breather cleaning and will pass that on to mechanic so he has no excuses and then keep my fingers crossed........or would it be better for me to clean the breathers first..as said am no mechanic so might have an hour spare one morning next week if it is straight forward..or does the work seem better done when gaskets changed again as parts will already be removed.....would i be right in assuming if breathers are clogged up..then cleaned the original gaskets will stop leaking??or is that wish full thinking as ..once a leak, allways going to leak..cheers anyway..andrew
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Re: THE DREADED LEAKY CAM COVERS..V6
« Reply #17 on: 30 March 2007, 23:26:44 »

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Thanks Chris..really kind gesture..unfortunatley working all week/end as most so will be down bottom end of kent..have got car lined up for new(2nd set ) of gaskets week on tuesday..have managed to source a further set of rocker covers for £25=00 of another member so will have those replaced at same time....it would be more likley to win all the lotteries than have 2 sets warped (famous last words )..have also printed out "how to "for breather cleaning and will pass that on to mechanic so he has no excuses and then keep my fingers crossed........or would it be better for me to clean the breathers first..as said am no mechanic so might have an hour spare one morning next week if it is straight forward..or does the work seem better done when gaskets changed again as parts will already be removed.....would i be right in assuming if breathers are clogged up..then cleaned the original gaskets will stop leaking??or is that wish full thinking as ..once a leak, allways going to leak..cheers anyway..andrew

It is much easier with the bits off when the covers are being done.  I'll be doing the hard to get to bits on mine tomorrow or Sunday without taking things apart, so I'll chuck some photos up and you can decide whether to attempt it yourself or not!

As for stopping leak after gaskets have been changed, I'm not too sure - it probably applies too much pressure to a part of the gasket to start with, so once thats done it may kill it.  To be honest though I'm not too sure. Marks DTM is the guru on these here, think he wrote the guide - he may be able to clarify this part..

Cheers,

Chris.
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« Reply #18 on: 31 March 2007, 10:06:59 »

Thanks for reply Chris,and if not too much trouble for you would be great to see working photos of the operation!!!I think I will give the problems to my mechanic as he has been paid to do job....have tracked down some second hand ,but am advised by Henry ..las_jacarandas..they are in good nick and have decent rubber seals fitted,for £25=00 delivered so will give the lot to my chap and hope we can sort out with all bits.....am a bit concerned about using second hand seals as expect that is false economy..what do you think as for the £40=00 new seals and o rings are you do have more peace of mind..never really thought you could use second hand gaskets.will await photos and good luck with your breathers...I am now off to work in Dover..luvly ah!!andrew
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Re: THE DREADED LEAKY CAM COVERS..V6
« Reply #19 on: 31 March 2007, 11:55:49 »

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Thanks for reply Chris,and if not too much trouble for you would be great to see working photos of the operation!!!I think I will give the problems to my mechanic as he has been paid to do job....have tracked down some second hand ,but am advised by Henry ..las_jacarandas..they are in good nick and have decent rubber seals fitted,for £25=00 delivered so will give the lot to my chap and hope we can sort out with all bits.....am a bit concerned about using second hand seals as expect that is false economy..what do you think as for the £40=00 new seals and o rings are you do have more peace of mind..never really thought you could use second hand gaskets.will await photos and good luck with your breathers...I am now off to work in Dover..luvly ah!!andrew

Personally I wouldn't use second hand gaskets.  The ones you already have on there that have been changed, being as they are so new *MIGHT* be ok, but I can't gurantee anything.  If it was me I would change them - and the o-rings will definitely need changing I would say, these seem to go hard in no time at all so you won't have a proper seal..
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Re: THE DREADED LEAKY CAM COVERS..V6
« Reply #20 on: 31 March 2007, 12:42:46 »

... also make sure the replacement covers aren't tightened to more than 8Nm ...
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« Reply #21 on: 31 March 2007, 13:31:40 »

It is much easier with the bits off when the covers are being done.  I'll be doing the hard to get to bits on mine tomorrow or Sunday without taking things apart, so I'll chuck some photos up and you can decide whether to attempt it yourself or not!

As for stopping leak after gaskets have been changed, I'm not too sure - it probably applies too much pressure to a part of the gasket to start with, so once thats done it may kill it.  To be honest though I'm not too sure. Marks DTM is the guru on these here, think he wrote the guide - he may be able to clarify this part..

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Would be good to see some pictures of the breather cleaning. Need to get mine done!  :)
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« Reply #22 on: 31 March 2007, 20:19:59 »

Hi ..I see you also live in Medway towns..maybe we could meet sometime?/
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Re: THE DREADED LEAKY CAM COVERS..V6
« Reply #23 on: 31 March 2007, 20:52:43 »

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Hi ..I see you also live in Medway towns..maybe we could meet sometime?/
Indeed I do!! (for my sins)

send me a PM, whilst no expert I can at least point a few bits & pieces out on the omega - breathers, etc ... good to meet fellow miggy owners  :y

Got 2 of 'em parked up here at the mo ... the gold one will be gone soon, once the DVLA in Wales get their backsides into gear  ;D
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