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Fitting Leather Seats
« on: 31 March 2007, 22:41:51 »
Hi all,

Question for you if you'd be so kind :)

My CD had some power functions on the drivers seat.  My new leather interior has lots more power functions e.g. memory.  The connectors are all the same, however on the new seat theres also a bigger connector with about 12-16 pins which I have nothing to plug into.  The seat won't do anything and I'm guessing its because of this, the fuse is ok and they were working in the car they came from.

What am I missing here?!  Do I need to remove some wiring / add some / short some pins perhaps?

Any advice, dearly appreciated.. I believe JamesV6 is sending me a diagram which may help..

Thanks in advance,

Chris.
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Re: Fitting Leather Seats
« Reply #1 on: 01 April 2007, 09:23:55 »
Do the seats have side airbags....
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Re: Fitting Leather Seats
« Reply #2 on: 01 April 2007, 10:23:28 »
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Do the seats have side airbags....

Yes they do..
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Re: Fitting Leather Seats
« Reply #3 on: 01 April 2007, 10:49:24 »
PDF sent mate
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« Reply #4 on: 01 April 2007, 11:13:02 »
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Thanks James, thats brilliant :)

However  :-? Thats really intense stuff!  Did you have to do a lot to get yours going?
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Re: Fitting Leather Seats
« Reply #5 on: 01 April 2007, 11:23:13 »
Its normaly little more than connecting the live feed to the already present one that used to drive the electric height adjuster
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Re: Fitting Leather Seats
« Reply #6 on: 01 April 2007, 11:58:29 »
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Its normaly little more than connecting the live feed to the already present one that used to drive the electric height adjuster

I'm going to have to post some photos as I just do not know what I'm doing here - I'm lost when it comes to wiring, my housemates the electrician and he's in Cornwall :( :(
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« Reply #7 on: 01 April 2007, 11:58:57 »
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Thanks James, thats brilliant :)

However  :-? Thats really intense stuff!  Did you have to do a lot to get yours going?

Nope.. if you find the right wires, you only need about 4 in total.

There are 2 multi-plugs under the seat... one is for all the mirrors and sh!te.. you don't need that one.. just the one for the seat with the thicker wires coming out of it..
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Re: Fitting Leather Seats
« Reply #8 on: 01 April 2007, 12:35:10 »
Heres some photos, as you can see on my old one it had the four wires coming from two connectors.  I traced these, they go straight to the switch on the side of the seat.



Then theres the new one  :-/



Wires look the same, except on the old one it had a red and a brown in one of the pairs, the new one has a red and black - you should be able to see what I'm going on about... I just don't know what I am doing here, never been good with wiring and don't want to blow it up..  If someone could just let me know what I actually need to do, like move this wire here etc I might be able to do it myself..and get to work on Monday..

Thanks,

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« Reply #9 on: 01 April 2007, 12:54:03 »
Ok....there should be one big connector with about 15 wires in it....ignore this one (its fro the mirrors)...

Of the ones left there is likely to be

A big red wire....connect this to the large red wire on the body loom which used to go to the seat height switch....

Possibly a big brown wire....unless the motors get 0v via the seat frame.....if there is this needs to be connected to the associated wire on the body loom again which conneted to the old seats...

That should leave

1) Brown/white - this is the diag feed and not essential
2) Smaller red wire....connect this to the large red wire
3) Small black wire - this is an ignition feed and not a permanent live one....this can probably be ignored....
4) Grey/white stripe - goes to the drivers door light switch....again, dont worry about it...

Thats working from scm so might be a few differences....bottom line is......Reds to red and Browns to brown...
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Re: Fitting Leather Seats
« Reply #10 on: 01 April 2007, 13:07:22 »
The black connector with the thick red wire on it is the only one you need to work with...
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Re: Fitting Leather Seats
« Reply #11 on: 01 April 2007, 13:46:11 »
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The black connector with the thick red wire on it is the only one you need to work with...

Whoops.

I think i've oppsed it up now, might set fire to it in a minute.

I've attached the small red wire and the small brown wire from the 20 pin connector to the big red and big black wires I have, still does nothing.  This is all seat side, I haven't made any changes to the loom in the car?  Do I need to James?  Not even sure after following Marks response that I should have cut these 2 wires out of the 20 pin connector, as it looks as if they're not neccesary.

Told you I didn't know what I'm doing, I'm going to don my spurs and fetch a blind fold.
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Re: Fitting Leather Seats
« Reply #12 on: 01 April 2007, 13:54:13 »
Black block I should be concerned with:

Pin

1    2
3 4 5
6 7 8

1= BIG RED
2= BIG BLACK
3= SMALL RED
4= SMALL BROWN
5= SMALL BLACK
6= SMALL BROWN/WHITE
7= SMALL GREY/WHITE
8= EMPTY

On the car I've got BIG BROWN and BIG RED.

BIG RED already goes to BIG RED on Seat (Pin 1).  BIG BROWN already goes to BIG BLACK on Seat (Pin 2)

I realise I'm becoming annoying now, but if you could lay the rest out like you would for a four year old that would be marvelous!

Cheers,

Chris
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Re: Fitting Leather Seats
« Reply #13 on: 01 April 2007, 17:14:39 »
Brown should not go to black......black signifies an ignition feed, brown is a 0v connection.

With the reds connected......try touching the large black from the seats to a convenient piece of metal on the car and operating the motors...
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« Reply #14 on: 01 April 2007, 17:15:53 »
So...connect the reds to red.....the blacks to black and the browns to the chassis 0V (any bare metal....)
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