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[sefton]

Thanks for the replies guys.
In answer to your questions, I put the CD wheels on as the original alloys had crap tyres on. Bought them off eBay with 4 good Michelins on them.
I have loads of main dealer SH, but nothing to suggest an engine change.
The belt was changed by to a shorter one myself when the comressor became noisy. (If you look closely at the pictures you can see the metal filings from the compresor on the bottom cover)
There is a "radiator" (if that is the correct term) in front of the normal radiator, has that got something to do with the aircon?
Here's a picture of the complete engine.
Al.

[tunnie]

its got a condensor too?  

It looks like a radiator but the 'mesh' is thiner and the condensor is usually dark grey/black?

Well thats very confusing.... I still don't see any air-con piping your in engine bay!

Could be someone started to retro fit it, then gave up  :-/

[sefton]

Should I be able to see pipes going to the compressor when viewed from the front?
I can see a pipe which seems to come from the top and goes to the passenger side of the radiator (not the power steering pipes)
al.

[nixoro]

its got a condensor too?  

It looks like a radiator but the 'mesh' is thiner and the condensor is usually dark grey/black?

Well thats very confusing.... I still don't see any air-con piping your in engine bay!

Could be someone started to retro fit it, then gave up  :-/

Tunnie looks like your right as mine has refrigerant pipes running from the Bulkhead and sefton has them missing.

The black piece on the back of the RAD is the fan.

As to the retrofitting AC perhaps someone started and gave up :-/

[Matchless]

Sefton...post up a picture of the engine bay, we want to see any pipes running down rhs of engine to bulkhead and a shot of the gap between engine and radiator.

Im with Mark, the car doesnt have a/c but has had an engine change for one with a compressor.

Pics. will confirm.

[ians]

Is it worth comparing engine number off the block with the one on the log book?

[Martin_1962]

2.0 & Aircon - I can verify

P reg GLS - Aircon as standard, no sun roof

N reg GLSes at least 3 sunroof no aircon
N reg CD aircon & sunroof

N reg GLS James both

Sometime between N and P reg the interiors were changed, aircon replaced sun roofs, outlet positions on the knobs changed, head rests changed.

P reg GLS had nice wheels the N reg GLSs had steels, the N reg CD had similar wheels to the thread starter

[Matchless]

Whats all the extra pipework ty-wrapped to the top hose and looping around by the secondary air?

Its a while since I had a 2.0 but that looks odd.

[sefton]

Well, It does seem a mystery!  I've taken some more photos, but to be honest I don't know what I'm looking for!

[tunnie]

2.0 & Aircon - I can verify

P reg GLS - Aircon as standard, no sun roof

N reg GLSes at least 3 sunroof no aircon
N reg CD aircon & sunroof

N reg GLS James both

Sometime between N and P reg the interiors were changed, aircon replaced sun roofs, outlet positions on the knobs changed, head rests changed.

P reg GLS had nice wheels the N reg GLSs had steels, the N reg CD had similar wheels to the thread starter

P Reg GLS did not have air-con as standard.... my dad had one. It had nice alloy wheels and a sun roof, but no air con. It still had the sqaure headrests so before mini-f

After mini-f GLS had air-con as standard

Can see here a list of AT GLS ones, pre 1998 ones did not have air-con unless it was an optional extra...

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/cars_search.jsp?searchform=&modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&photo=1&state=block&sort=3&hassearched=Y&make=VAUXHALL&min_pr=75&source=0&model=OMEGA&max_pr=&miles=40&agerange=&mileage=&postcode=gu15+3qd&variant=GLS&bodyid=0&trim=&fuelid=0&colour=&transmissionid=0&keywords=&ukcarsearch_full.x=32&ukcarsearch_full.y=3

[sefton]

I have found 2 pipes which go from the passenger side of the bulkhead near the rear breather pipe. 1 goes to some sort of small cylinder near to the compressor, the other goes to a canister (?) next to the condenser. Are these aircon pipes?
Al.

[Martin_1962]

2.0 & Aircon - I can verify

P reg GLS - Aircon as standard, no sun roof

N reg GLSes at least 3 sunroof no aircon
N reg CD aircon & sunroof

N reg GLS James both

Sometime between N and P reg the interiors were changed, aircon replaced sun roofs, outlet positions on the knobs changed, head rests changed.

P reg GLS had nice wheels the N reg GLSs had steels, the N reg CD had similar wheels to the thread starter

P Reg GLS did not have air-con as standard.... my dad had one. It had nice alloy wheels and a sun roof, but no air con. It still had the sqaure headrests so before mini-f

After mini-f GLS had air-con as standard

Can see here a list of AT GLS ones, pre 1998 ones did not have air-con unless it was an optional extra...

My P reg GLS had aircon

[nixoro]

Sefton, Looking at your images it looks like someone has had a go at fitting it.

The 1st picture shows the pipework running across the front of the engine near the auxillary Belt and also visible is the alternator.

The 2nd picture shows the pipework coming from the Bulkhead (piccy courtesy of Auto Addict?)

Having looked at your pictures someone has obviously had ago as like tunnie mentions in a previous post you also have the condenser unit fitted.

Thing which i find strange is the radiator has not been swapped as the one fitted is for a non AC car, same goes for the Fan aswell.

In one of your pictures you can see a black pipe running from the bulkhead does this run to anything? (5th Picture down)

Hope this helps to confirm your suspicions

[sefton]

Hi nixoro, thanks for that, the plot thickens! the pipe in the 5th picture down goes from the bulkhead to a "canister" at the side of the condenser in front of the radiator. The other pipe coming from the bulkhead adjacent to that one goes into another "canister" at the side of the engine above the compressor - this looks the same as the one in your photo which is at the front of the engine.
What I can't understand is why someone would go to all this trouble and not fit a switch inside. I have most of the SH with the car and it is all Vx main dealer up until July '06. no mention of any A/C servicing or problems etc. So if someone has decided to do a retro fit then it must have been recently, although it doesn't look like the pipework has been moved for years! I haven't got the V5 yet so when it arrives I will get in touch with the owner who bought it last July. Not that it matters too much, as I am not planning on reconnecting it, but I love a mystery!
Al.

[nixoro]

Hi nixoro, thanks for that, the plot thickens! the pipe in the 5th picture down goes from the bulkhead to a "canister" at the side of the condenser in front of the radiator. The other pipe coming from the bulkhead adjacent to that one goes into another "canister" at the side of the engine above the compressor - this looks the same as the one in your photo which is at the front of the engine.
What I can't understand is why someone would go to all this trouble and not fit a switch inside. I have most of the SH with the car and it is all Vx main dealer up until July '06. no mention of any A/C servicing or problems etc. So if someone has decided to do a retro fit then it must have been recently, although it doesn't look like the pipework has been moved for years! I haven't got the V5 yet so when it arrives I will get in touch with the owner who bought it last July. Not that it matters too much, as I am not planning on reconnecting it, but I love a mystery!
Al.

Seems very odd to go to all that trouble, I wonder if the loom is in place for the AC switch and if it has been enabled/setup in your ecu.

Could be a case of a few more tweaks and you could have AC.