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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #45 on: 16 June 2007, 17:10:37 »
Just tried Omegatoy for AR35, awaiting response (he has no internet connection for a while due to house move)
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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #46 on: 16 June 2007, 17:14:03 »
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Just tried Omegatoy for AR35, awaiting response (he has no internet connection for a while due to house move)

Dave has an idea... but it would need your buy in.

I'm not even comfortable asking.. you may want to discuss with him  ::) ::)
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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #47 on: 16 June 2007, 17:17:38 »
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Just tried Omegatoy for AR35, awaiting response (he has no internet connection for a while due to house move)

Dave has an idea... but it would need your buy in.

I'm not even comfortable asking.. you may want to discuss with him  ::) ::)

PM replied to :)

Decisions  ::)
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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #48 on: 16 June 2007, 17:18:57 »
it is almost impossible for two items on the same piece of equipment to fail at exactly the same time,therefore  i would suggest that the thrust washer failed first the hydraulics of the box cannot control 3mm of slop when there should be .2mm.when i purchased recently a sonnax thrust washer kit  i had in the packet 2 thrust washers,so im am saying to you is there any way you can get your butt to trowbridge with said gearbox(the pump will reouire m/c)and i will replace said washer in approx 1 1/2 hours.there is a  catch however i need something doing as well  i have got a 3 litre omega sat here that will not start,savvi
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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #49 on: 16 June 2007, 20:17:13 »
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Any odd noises from the box?

None at all

I have just been seriously messed about by a Winker on ebay about the box, I'm spitting fire  [smiley=angry.gif]

no noise - so I wonder what went - it will be intersting to find out ::) :-?
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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #50 on: 16 June 2007, 20:20:35 »
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Any odd noises from the box?

None at all

I have just been seriously messed about by a Winker on ebay about the box, I'm spitting fire  [smiley=angry.gif]

no noise - so I wonder what went - it will be intersting to find out ::) :-?
It'll be one of the bands or associated clutches - the AR25 simply cannot handle a bootful of 3.0l power...
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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #51 on: 16 June 2007, 23:35:48 »
It can, but the AR35 copes better.

Gearbox sourced, fetched, dumped in Laidbacks boot and on its way in the morning. Jaime, yours is in there too.

Call me WHEN you get stuck, especially wioth converting the AR25 bellhousing over. MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS VERY CLEAN WHEN YOU SPLIT THE BELLHOUSING OFF. Do NOT get grit, dirt or laidbacks inside that box!
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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #52 on: 16 June 2007, 23:37:30 »
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It can, but the AR35 copes better.

Gearbox sourced, fetched, dumped in Laidbacks boot and on its way in the morning. Jaime, yours is in there too.

Call me WHEN you get stuck, especially wioth converting the AR25 bellhousing over. MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS VERY CLEAN WHEN YOU SPLIT THE BELLHOUSING OFF. Do NOT get grit, dirt or laidbacks inside that box!

Cheeky beggar!  ;D


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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #53 on: 17 June 2007, 05:35:13 »
OK, it 5.37am on a Sunday morning and I am up!   [smiley=huh.gif]

There had better be bacon sarnies and strong tea (1 sugar) when I arrive!



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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #54 on: 17 June 2007, 19:14:44 »
Any news yet?

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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #55 on: 18 June 2007, 12:52:43 »
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it is almost impossible for two items on the same piece of equipment to fail at exactly the same time,therefore  i would suggest that the thrust washer failed first the hydraulics of the box cannot control 3mm of slop when there should be .2mm.when i purchased recently a sonnax thrust washer kit  i had in the packet 2 thrust washers,so im am saying to you is there any way you can get your butt to trowbridge with said gearbox(the pump will reouire m/c)and i will replace said washer in approx 1 1/2 hours.there is a  catch however i need something doing as well  i have got a 3 litre omega sat here that will not start,savvi

I have intermittent problems with my autobox, you sound like you them alot better than I do and you are less than an hour away from me!

Symptomns - Occasionally slips (esp around 30mph and almost always when booting it and then leveling at 30mph) if I leave it I get a thump and then the limp home mode.  If I change down to 3 when it slips and take off the throttle I get a smaller thump and I can change back upto D without consequence.

I changed the ATF and cleaned the filter a few months ago found 2 quarters of the dredded thrust washer in the intermittent sump.  I am looking for a new box but if you have any ideas I could have a look at your 3.0.  I know much more about engines than gearboxes, savvy? ;)

Alternatively pop down to the Tidworth cam belt/ autobox party at the end of the month - your expertese would be appreciated :D

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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #56 on: 18 June 2007, 15:50:36 »
Interestingly,  you can get an uprated washer from the US to give a long term fix to this problem.

Apparantly its due to the nylon one overheating, details here:

http://www.oregonperformancetransmission.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=OPTI&Product_Code=SNX+54701-03K&Category_Code=BMW

I realy need to disect one of these failed units.
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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #57 on: 18 June 2007, 16:43:35 »
When I get a replacement for mine and I am satisfied it is working I will be having a go too.

I feel confident having a go at just about any job but gearboxes so I would like to learn.

Anyone have any publications which would help?  The book of lies ducked out of this one  ::)
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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #58 on: 18 June 2007, 16:46:51 »
4L30E manuals are easy to get off the web...

Also a certain Vx tech tool has the details as well
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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #59 on: 18 June 2007, 16:59:47 »
james
before you think gearbox it may well be the pump that as died in the torque convertor your symptoms are exactly what happened on a scorpio i had
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