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[colinwilliams]

I have a 2002 2.2GLS petrol saloon with 71k on the clock.

Over the last 9 months the little car & spanner dashboard light, (control indicator for engine electronics according to the owners manual), has started coming on more and more frequently.
When I start from cold it is fine for ages, but when I start from warm it often stays on.
If I stop and turn the engine off, turn the ignition on and wait for the lights to go out, the restart the engine it usually goes out. When do this it sometimes stays off completely, but lately it is coming on again whilst driving.

Is this a common occurence and what do I do sort it. I am a good DIY mechanic and can fix most things - it is just that I don't know what the problem is and I can't afford to pay a Dealer a small fortune to tell me what is up before telling me it will cost another small fortune to fix it!

Any suggestion please?

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[TheBoy]

Soz, you need to get codes read.  Where are you based?

[colinwilliams]

I live in Heswall on The Wirral. It's the bit stuck in between North Wales and Liverpool!!!

[TheBoy]

I live in Heswall on The Wirral. It's the bit stuck in between North Wales and Liverpool!!!

Ah, too far from me or Mark then

I believe the Cheshire lads know some garages with a Tech2, or being ODBII compliant, generic readers should work for engine.

[Taxi_Driver]

Soz, you need to get codes read.  Where are you based?

Tut tut TB......its a 2.2....you dont need to get codes read.....

Classic symptoms of cam sensor  

Tho deciding factor is......if youve a manual.....this doesnt apply

If auto does autobox go into limp mode too when EML is on?....ie pulls away sluggishly, in 3rd gear.

Oh and another deciding factor is.....when starting and EML stays on....does it struggle a bit to start?

If you do get the codes read.....most independant garages can read the codes....and it comes back with P0340......thats the cam sensor  

[colinwilliams]

Thanks for the response and help anyway.
I am new to the forum - do you know anyone I can contact or will someone contact me via the forum?
I am not sure how it works!

[Taxi_Driver]

Thanks for the response and help anyway.
I am new to the forum - do you know anyone I can contact or will someone contact me via the forum?
I am not sure how it works!

Well....to be sure....take it to a local independant that can read the codes.....it sounds like camshaft sensor from the symptoms you describe
......tho difficult to start sometimes and gearbox answer would help to diagnose further....
If it comes up with P0340.....thats the camshaft sensor.....so get it changed....or change it yourself....fairly easy job.....new sensor from vx is £68+vat if you carnt get discount on it  

[colinwilliams]

When starting, if the light stays on, it does turn over a few times before starting and doesn't pick up quite as quickly, but after a few seconds it seems to run OK.

If the light goes out it starts immediately and revs fine from the start, but it often comes on whilst moving, though it doesn't seem to affect performance when it does.

It does seem to pull away ok even if the light is on.

I will see if I can find a local garage who can give me an readout of the code/s.

Many thanks

[Taxi_Driver]

When starting, if the light stays on, it does turn over a few times before starting and doesn't pick up quite as quickly, but after a few seconds it seems to run OK.

If the light goes out it starts immediately and revs fine from the start, but it often comes on whilst moving, though it doesn't seem to affect performance when it does.

It does seem to pull away ok even if the light is on.

I will see if I can find a local garage who can give me an readout of the code/s.

Many thanks

Looking more like cam sensor......manual or auto?

[colinwilliams]

Auto!

[TheBoy]

Yup, sounds similar to yours TD....

[colinwilliams]

I have seen new cam sensors on EBay from as little as £8.88 plus P&P.

Are they any good as they seem very cheap compared to Vauxhall prices.

Any idea how hard they are to fit?

(Have to say - this site rocks!! The speed of responses and the helpfulness is outstanding!)

[Taxi_Driver]

I have seen new cam sensors on EBay from as little as £8.88 plus P&P.

Are they any good as they seem very cheap compared to Vauxhall prices.

Any idea how hard they are to fit?

(Have to say - this site rocks!! The speed of responses and the helpfulness is outstanding!)

Id still say cam sensor...tho my g/b was going into limp mode everytime it did it...and get one one vx....its been known to fit cheap non vx cam sensors and fault hasnt gone away......see pm ive just sent you (reply to yours) ...there pretty easy to fit  

[Taxi_Driver]

I have seen new cam sensors on EBay from as little as £8.88 plus P&P.

Are they any good as they seem very cheap compared to Vauxhall prices.

Any idea how hard they are to fit?

(Have to say - this site rocks!! The speed of responses and the helpfulness is outstanding!)

Its coz were all sad gits with nothing else better else to do on a Sunday evening  

[colinwilliams]

It may be sad - but I'm extremely grateful!

I will sort one from the local Vauxhall Dealer in the morning - and thanks to everyone for all the help!