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[sounds2k]

well although the highway code clearly says you should be in the left-hand lane unless overtaking in those scenarios, there are a lot of muppets like that one that don't.

I tend to take the approach that if they're so ignorant that they haven't seen you coming up behind them and following them for a mile or so (whilst maintaining a safe distance), I tend to just switch on sports mode and undertake, as they're obviously in a little world of their own. Either that or they're ignorant and arrogant like the one you met, in which case flashing and beeping only tends to result in toys being thrown out of the pram ...

I believe there was a similar scene on one of the "police stop!" type programs - eventually the following car undertook the one on the outside lane, BOTH cars got pulled and given a talking to ... yes, the following car shouldn't undertake - but the leading car should have moved over and let the following car pass when it's not overtaking ...

[TheBoy]

I'm sure those living in Milton Keynes will agree, but this is a normal thing around here.  But then a large proportion of the population around here do not have valid driving licences....

[Danny]

Driving down the A48 (M) dual carraigeway this morning, I came across the most annoying driver.

He was in the outside lane (of 2) doing about 67mph. No other traffic about. I Was moving slightly quicker than him. Came up behind him, in the same lane, keeping a reasonable distance away, expecting him to move over. After a bit he didn't, so still keeping a safe distance, gave him a quick flash of the lights.

No response from him - he just kept hogging the outside lane at 65mph.

Flash lights again briefly, nothing, so tap horn. He turns to look in his mirror.. "ah ha, he's seen me" I think, expecting him to move over.

Did he heck - he remained hogging the outside lane, but put his windscreen washers on, constantly, soaking my screen.

I keep following at a safe distance, waiting for him to move over. And what does he do? absolutely hammer on his brakes, for no reason at all. Obviously it didn't cause any accidents, because I was following at a safe gap. I had to react fast though, and his ABS was definately working!

After he did this, he finally pulled over into the inside lane, so I took my opportunity, and overtook him as quickly as I could.

What does he do? Put his foot down, to try and prevent me passing. I have nearly twice the engine size of his Focus, so I drop down a gear and pass him anyway.

Once I was a safe gap in front of him, I pulled into the nearside lane, at which point he approached me from behind at breakneck speed, and proceeded to sit on my bumper, flashing his lights repeatedly.

He then kept up this behaviour for about 5 minutes, until he pulled onto a sliproad and beggared off.

Some people should just not be on the road, I did nothing aggressive (and nothing that could be percieved as agressive) to cause his reactions,

I wonder if some people just get kicks out of behaving like this?  

I was tempted to report to the police, but I was concentrating too much on staying safe to get his reg no, so I doubt it's much point.

 



 

had it come to the point of you both stopping at the same place, you could have tapped on his window and said "do you have your driving license with you sir?" then tell him you'd like to discuss the manner of his driving. dont mention the word "police" because obviously you're not, but he might poo his pants

[A380 Elite]

  where a Hi-Vis Tabard when driving your omega?

Having to were one for work, it works for me.

Even the police where fooled, i was only driving home.

They were on a call coming towards me, they slowed down, wound down there window, looked, i smiled, then they sped off.

[Danny]

where a Hi-Vis Tabard when driving your omega?

Having to were one for work, it works for me.

Even the police where fooled, i was only driving home.

They were on a call coming towards me, they slowed down, wound down there window, looked, i smiled, then they sped off.

manual windows?? are they spending our money on better things than the cars?

[omega18]

well although the highway code clearly says you should be in the left-hand lane unless overtaking in those scenarios, there are a lot of muppets like that one that don't.

I tend to take the approach that if they're so ignorant that they haven't seen you coming up behind them and following them for a mile or so (whilst maintaining a safe distance), I tend to just switch on sports mode and undertake, as they're obviously in a little world of their own. Either that or they're ignorant and arrogant like the one you met, in which case flashing and beeping only tends to result in toys being thrown out of the pram ...

I believe there was a similar scene on one of the "police stop!" type programs - eventually the following car undertook the one on the outside lane, BOTH cars got pulled and given a talking to ... yes, the following car shouldn't undertake - but the leading car should have moved over and let the following car pass when it's not overtaking ...

I would totally agree with you about the undertaking, the amount of people on the roads that do this I think appears to be increasing. I personnaly think it is time that something was done about the amout of incompetent people driving on our roads these days. I am not sure what could be done though?

[Andy B]

A long long time ago I actually saw a car being pulled over by a 'Jam Buttie' (yes! It was THAT long ago ) on the M4 that'd just been sat in lane TWO for mile after mile.


Edited cos I'm stupid!

[Danny]

whats wrong with being in lane 1?

[Andy B]

whats wrong with being in lane 1?

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[Danny]

A long long time ago I actually saw a car being pulled over by a 'Jam Buttie' (yes! It was THAT long ago ) on the M4 that'd just been sat in lane TWO for mile after mile.


Edited cos I'm stupid!

i remember the Jam butty!!

[Andy B]

A long long time ago I actually saw a car being pulled over by a 'Jam Buttie' (yes! It was THAT long ago ) on the M4 that'd just been sat in lane TWO for mile after mile.


Edited cos I'm stupid!

i remember the Jam butty!!

You could've left my edit small    

[Danny]

 

[VX1]

I agree with BOB i'm afraid! When I was minicabbing this happened alot when on the M4 I alway's undertook someone if they didn't move into the inside lane and as I passed them and got infront of them they would flash there lights at me. In the end I got so peed off with this I bought a relay set of ebay which made my main beam bulbs wig wag just like Mr Plod!! Definatley made it worth will buying them, should have seen them pull over into the inside lane and slow down then I go into sport mode foot flat to the floor and saying SEE YA!!!  

[miggy]

Driving down the A48 (M) dual carraigeway this morning, I came across the most annoying driver.

He was in the outside lane (of 2) doing about 67mph. No other traffic about. I Was moving slightly quicker than him. Came up behind him, in the same lane, keeping a reasonable distance away, expecting him to move over. After a bit he didn't, so still keeping a safe distance, gave him a quick flash of the lights.

No response from him - he just kept hogging the outside lane at 65mph.

Flash lights again briefly, nothing, so tap horn. He turns to look in his mirror.. "ah ha, he's seen me" I think, expecting him to move over.

Did he heck - he remained hogging the outside lane, but put his windscreen washers on, constantly, soaking my screen.

I keep following at a safe distance, waiting for him to move over. And what does he do? absolutely hammer on his brakes, for no reason at all. Obviously it didn't cause any accidents, because I was following at a safe gap. I had to react fast though, and his ABS was definately working!

After he did this, he finally pulled over into the inside lane, so I took my opportunity, and overtook him as quickly as I could.

What does he do? Put his foot down, to try and prevent me passing. I have nearly twice the engine size of his Focus, so I drop down a gear and pass him anyway.

Once I was a safe gap in front of him, I pulled into the nearside lane, at which point he approached me from behind at breakneck speed, and proceeded to sit on my bumper, flashing his lights repeatedly.

He then kept up this behaviour for about 5 minutes, until he pulled onto a sliproad and beggared off.

Some people should just not be on the road, I did nothing aggressive (and nothing that could be percieved as agressive) to cause his reactions,

I wonder if some people just get kicks out of behaving like this?  

I was tempted to report to the police, but I was concentrating too much on staying safe to get his reg no, so I doubt it's much point.

 



 

I know the road you mention, the heading is right, some drivers do need a GOOD slap.

 

[Kevin Wood]

Having recently done 2300 miles in europe and in comparison it's quite an eye opener how discourteous drivers are in this country.

Driving down through France was a total breeze. OK. They have very little traffic on their motorways so probably a bad example. Italy generally had heavy traffic with a lot of lorries on the roads I was on. Even still, people were, on the whole, in the correct lane. Most followed too close for my liking but that's another issue. They pulled over when you came up behind them.

Austria and Switzerland were fine too.

I found Belgium pretty much like here, and Germany was interesting, to say the least.

The main factor I can dig from this is that when the speed limit is 130 KPH (just over 80 MPH) and enforcement is not as anal as over here, a cruising speed that satisfies everyone is within the law and the range of speeds is much less. There are slow vehicles doing 55-60 and everyone else cruises at around 80-85.

Here we have drivers who want to cruise at 90+, drivers who see 80 as a bit naughtly but unlikely to get them into trouble, those who stick religiously to the speed limit through "speed kills" brainwashing and won't break the limit even if they end up driving parallel to the vehicle they are trying to overtake and caravans, lorries, etc. that cruise around the 55-60 mark. I even often come across car drivers who cruise slower than lorries, forcing them to overtake

It all went horribly wrong in germany again for the same reason. One lane is taken up by lorries and moves at 55. The other lane is a mixture of vehicles who want to travel anywhere from 60 MPH to <insert maximum speed of S class merc>. One nice thing was that lorries are banned from the overtaking lane on 2 lane dual carriageways / motorways, ending the practice of "snail racing". When will they do that here?

Belgium has a speed limit of 120 KPH and I think this explains the fact that it was much like home.

Anyway, that's my theory. About time we upped the limit to 80 perhaps - not that the "speed kills" lobby would entertain that for a minute.

Kevin