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How hard would it be?
« on: 29 September 2007, 18:28:14 »

How hard exactly is it to take the engine out?

I did the rocker gaskets myself and found it pretty straight forward. A bit daunting at first as i had never done anything that involving but did it and it started first turn after.

Just thinking of buying another one with a knackered engine (off ebay if i can spy one) and taking the engine out to put a new one in fron vauxhall (£1600 exchange) , so i can pretty much go to to wn on the car then.

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Re: How hard would it be?
« Reply #1 on: 29 September 2007, 19:03:18 »

Over 100 lookers and not a reply?

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Re: How hard would it be?
« Reply #2 on: 29 September 2007, 19:25:25 »

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Come on regulars!

Depends what tools you have available to you, and whether you'd be doing the work inside a nice warm garage or out in the street. A hoist would come in handy, but engine removal isn't too difficult if you're methodical. It's been a long time since I've done anything that involved.
I'd have to think long & hard before I spent £1600 on an engine though. I'd more likely buy another car for it's engine or at least get A N Other engine.
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Re: How hard would it be?
« Reply #3 on: 29 September 2007, 19:29:19 »

It would be in a nice warm garage with a 4 post lift.

I want to get a brand new engine so would have to pay the £1600 from vauxhall

is it just a case of taking of the ancilleries, gearbox and then engine mounts?

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Re: How hard would it be?
« Reply #4 on: 29 September 2007, 19:47:04 »

Having done it twice in the last couple of months (on tractor engine, not V6), once with disconnecting gearbox, once with leave gearbox attached with engine and lifting out with engine, I would recommend the later.


No difficult with a good hoist.  The 2nd time, LFF64 and I started removal from scratch at around 11:30ish, and had the engine (and box) remounted by dark (not reconnecting ancillaries) - early Sept so dark around 8:30 - 9:00
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Re: How hard would it be?
« Reply #5 on: 29 September 2007, 19:48:02 »

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It would be in a nice warm garage with a 4 post lift.

I want to get a brand new engine so would have to pay the £1600 from vauxhall

is it just a case of taking of the ancilleries, gearbox and then engine mounts?

matt

I've never looked that carefully but I'd say so. If I had a 4 post lift though I think I'd be looking at leaving the engine connected to the lower cross member, suspension etc and lift the car up off it. I would think that's how Vauxhall put it all in, in the first place.
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« Reply #6 on: 29 September 2007, 19:51:36 »

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Having done it twice in the last couple of months (on tractor engine, not V6), once with disconnecting gearbox, once with leave gearbox attached with engine and lifting out with engine, I would recommend the later.


No difficult with a good hoist.  The 2nd time, LFF64 and I started removal from scratch at around 11:30ish, and had the engine (and box) remounted by dark (not reconnecting ancillaries) - early Sept so dark around 8:30 - 9:00


So you started at 11:30 , took it out , did whatever work you did and had it back in and mounts secured before dark?

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« Reply #7 on: 29 September 2007, 19:54:28 »

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Having done it twice in the last couple of months (on tractor engine, not V6), once with disconnecting gearbox, once with leave gearbox attached with engine and lifting out with engine, I would recommend the later.


No difficult with a good hoist.  The 2nd time, LFF64 and I started removal from scratch at around 11:30ish, and had the engine (and box) remounted by dark (not reconnecting ancillaries) - early Sept so dark around 8:30 - 9:00


So you started at 11:30 , took it out , did whatever work you did and had it back in and mounts secured before dark?

Matt
Didn't do any work to it - see the saga of Project Tractor Engine Swap (do a search) - lifted out old engine/box, bolted gearbox on to spare engine, put spare engine back in.

Yes, started at 11:30am, replacement engine back in by dark (but still 3-4hrs work putting all ancillaries back on).
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Re: How hard would it be?
« Reply #8 on: 29 September 2007, 19:56:46 »

I might have a go then , whats the worst that can happen? , i'll just have to bombard the forum with questions  ;D

So i leave all the brake master cylinder in, radiator etc etc , just disconnect stuff like the loom, fuel lines etc

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I might have a go then , whats the worst that can happen? , i'll just have to bombard the forum with questions  ;D

So i leave all the brake master cylinder in, radiator etc etc , just disconnect stuff like the loom, fuel lines etc

Matt
On tractor, the rad, the condensor, compressor, pas, airbox, alternator etc all had to come off, presumably v6 will be along same lines...
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Re: How hard would it be?
« Reply #10 on: 29 September 2007, 20:11:49 »

I have seen services do that taking the engine from down (they say its more simple) but they have many equipments..Anyway not a straightforward job..(at least for me)
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Re: How hard would it be?
« Reply #11 on: 29 September 2007, 20:33:22 »

refitted one on tues complete with box ! did cam belt and cam covers and cleaned breathers out and jizered the engine and bay started at 10am all back in bolted up and water in just front pipes left to do stopped for breakfast and tea finished 8.30 pm in a garage in my dads back yard on axle stands and good engine hiost !!!!  :y
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« Reply #12 on: 29 September 2007, 20:36:08 »

Any nightmares i should encounter then?

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Re: How hard would it be?
« Reply #13 on: 29 September 2007, 20:43:59 »

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Any nightmares i should encounter then?

Matt
nothing insurmountable.  The exhaust can sometimes be a pig on the V6...
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Re: How hard would it be?
« Reply #14 on: 29 September 2007, 20:52:43 »

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refitted one on tues complete with box ! did cam belt and cam covers and cleaned breathers out and jizered the engine and bay started at 10am all back in bolted up and water in just front pipes left to do stopped for breakfast and tea finished 8.30 pm in a garage in my dads back yard on axle stands and good engine hiost !!!!  :y


What things didnt you have to take out of the engine bay? , eg master cylinder , rad

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