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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #180 on: 23 August 2007, 22:19:36 »
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As for the starter connections...

Big red cable to main screw lug (obvious)
2.5mm2 cable in Black red to connector 50
0.5mm2 cable in Black/Green to connector 38H

The last connection goes to the fuel filter heater relay.

As for the control solenoid on the pump, the wiring diagram sudgests that both pumps have them.
And the forth cable, not mentioned in haynes wiring diags goes to the big connector as well, as its the alternetor output  - connecting to the start3er relay has obvious effects ::)
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #181 on: 23 August 2007, 22:30:12 »
just meant to say don't forget all 4 injectors as they different nozzles and flow rates not just the centre one with the connector. Dont know set up of Omega pump, but normally you can get to them with a bit more cursing and stripping bits off like engine mounts etc....
Look forward to hearing how it goes. Sorry have to log off now SWMBO is dragging me upstairs and not just to sleep me thinks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  wehey :y :y. Didn't realise is was that time of year already ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #182 on: 24 August 2007, 08:39:02 »
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now getting code 34 (no rather eml though - thats why beemer owners think their heap of crap is so reliable, it never brings on warning light)

34 - injector timing out of range

bugger.


hooray!!! that concurs with the running problems!!!! simply put the injectors are putting to much fuel in amd the ecu cant back it off!!!  got to be pump sensor, or pieco lead injector!!! :y
According to EPC, the solenoid is the same on both engines. ALL the injectors are different, reading between the lines in TIS, they have a different spray pattern.

Anyone know where I can get a removal tool for the injectors?
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #183 on: 24 August 2007, 08:39:35 »
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just meant to say don't forget all 4 injectors as they different nozzles and flow rates not just the centre one with the connector. Dont know set up of Omega pump, but normally you can get to them with a bit more cursing and stripping bits off like engine mounts etc....
Look forward to hearing how it goes. Sorry have to log off now SWMBO is dragging me upstairs and not just to sleep me thinks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  wehey :y :y. Didn't realise is was that time of year already ;D ;D ;D
you mean all 6 ;)
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #184 on: 24 August 2007, 12:47:25 »
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just meant to say don't forget all 4 injectors as they different nozzles and flow rates not just the centre one with the connector. Dont know set up of Omega pump, but normally you can get to them with a bit more cursing and stripping bits off like engine mounts etc....
Look forward to hearing how it goes. Sorry have to log off now SWMBO is dragging me upstairs and not just to sleep me thinks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  wehey :y :y. Didn't realise is was that time of year already ;D ;D ;D
you mean all 6 ;)

Of course sorry mind was on other things   ;D ;D :y :y
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #185 on: 24 August 2007, 12:53:08 »
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just meant to say don't forget all 4 injectors as they different nozzles and flow rates not just the centre one with the connector. Dont know set up of Omega pump, but normally you can get to them with a bit more cursing and stripping bits off like engine mounts etc....
Look forward to hearing how it goes. Sorry have to log off now SWMBO is dragging me upstairs and not just to sleep me thinks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  wehey :y :y. Didn't realise is was that time of year already ;D ;D ;D
you mean all 6 ;)

Of course sorry mind was on other things   ;D ;D :y :y
So, to clarify, as pump and solenoid in pump have same part numbers, I just need to change injectors over.

If that doesn't cure it, do I then need to adjust the pump timing?
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #186 on: 24 August 2007, 13:00:56 »
Definately change injectors over. if pump which comes with solenoid is the same part no. for early and late then you don't need to swop solenoid. Do injectors and see what happens. Like i said before if engine was running okay before i wouldn't start playing with pump timing just yet. :)
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #187 on: 24 August 2007, 13:05:13 »
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Definately change injectors over. if pump which comes with solenoid is the same part no. for early and late then you don't need to swop solenoid. Do injectors and see what happens. Like i said before if engine was running okay before i wouldn't start playing with pump timing just yet. :)
Need to find a tool to remove injectors with - looks like a big, deep socket.  And the one with the electric connector, how does tha come off?
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #188 on: 24 August 2007, 13:11:51 »
I need to have a further look at the wiring info as there was one slight difference I noted on the scms between the two pumps which could be changed in the loom setup.....it could also be nothing more than error on the pump symbol.

It was related to the pump feedback sensors (potentiometers), it looked like there could be a difference......may be nothing but, I will check anyway.
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #189 on: 24 August 2007, 13:13:27 »
The socket is more like a ring spanner at the bottom, half the tube part of the socket is missing with a full 1/2"" connection in the top. Would lend you mine but its out on loan at the mo. and as usual can't get hold of the "mate" whose borrowed it.  :-[ looks a bit like this from the side:  [  . Laser do a good socket and their tools have been good quality lately :y
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #190 on: 24 August 2007, 13:15:30 »
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The socket is more like a ring spanner at the bottom, half the tube part of the socket is missing with a full 1/2"" connection in the top. Would lend you mine but its out on loan at the mo. and as usual can't get hold of the "mate" whose borrowed it.  :-[ looks a bit like this from the side:  [  . Laser do a good socket and their tools have been good quality lately :y
Where can I get one - Brackley Autosave won't sell it.

Know what size it is?
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #191 on: 24 August 2007, 13:17:09 »
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I need to have a further look at the wiring info as there was one slight difference I noted on the scms between the two pumps which could be changed in the loom setup.....it could also be nothing more than error on the pump symbol.

It was related to the pump feedback sensors (potentiometers), it looked like there could be a difference......may be nothing but, I will check anyway.
If you could, that would be appreciated.  I was really hoping to get this going this weekend, as need it for Wales meet, but currently, I can't see a resolution  :'(
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #192 on: 24 August 2007, 13:35:17 »
Must confess been a while since i bought the socket so can't remember what size it is. But http://www.lasertools.co.uk/tools.aspx?cat=197 is the web site for laser go to automotive then diesel then injector sockets, but you'll need to know the size don't know if tis can help you or epc. Sorry don't know how to set up links :-[ hope this helps :)
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #193 on: 24 August 2007, 16:14:18 »
Any diesel experts passing Brackley this weekend, feel free to drop in :P
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #194 on: 25 August 2007, 08:28:23 »
Omegatoy is popping round for a couple of hours around midday :D

Today could be make or break day for the tractor  :-/
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