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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #75 on: 19 August 2007, 22:57:35 »

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Jamie tell me to shut up if you like but. Are you 100% sure theres no air in the system, was it bled from the pump first then the injectors also is the fuel stop valve stuck half way..I am not familier with the BMW td fuel pump but i was a diesel fitter for 11 years and have had the same problems, especially with lots of smoke being pumped out i think i read earlier..
No, I haven't.

Under impression, these were self bleeding - I was expecting air in, but before on old engine, this was cleared fairly quickly.  No obvious bleed near pump or injectors?

I take it is a rotory pump if so slacken off 2 injector pipes on pump just to get air out of pump then 2 on injectors while turning over. you might get air out of it with hand pump if fitted..Always works for me on diesel engines..Does it have a fuel solenoid if so make sure power is going there or give it a light thump with spanner.. Of course as i said im not used to these engines and things have come a long way since i played with things. ECU controlled nightmares.. :y
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Not sure what bleeding method is needed, hopefully someone will be able to tell me soon :)
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #76 on: 19 August 2007, 23:21:53 »

well apparently the procedure is:


Remove

Remove engine cover.
Loosen closure plug on fuel filter approx. two turns.
Actuate starter until fuel escapes free of bubbles at closure plug. Seal closure plug. Collect escaping fuel.

Inspect

Whilst the starter is actuated, loosen all injection lines in sequence at the injection nozzle holder with Line Wrench KM-812, until fuel escapes at the injection lines.
Seal injection lines again – tightening torque 25 Nm / 18.5 lbf. ft.
Collect escaping fuel.
Install engine cover.

... can be found in a certain program (ahem  ;))
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #77 on: 20 August 2007, 07:38:44 »

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well apparently the procedure is:


Remove

Remove engine cover.
Loosen closure plug on fuel filter approx. two turns.
Actuate starter until fuel escapes free of bubbles at closure plug. Seal closure plug. Collect escaping fuel.

Inspect

Whilst the starter is actuated, loosen all injection lines in sequence at the injection nozzle holder with Line Wrench KM-812, until fuel escapes at the injection lines.
Seal injection lines again – tightening torque 25 Nm / 18.5 lbf. ft.
Collect escaping fuel.
Install engine cover.

... can be found in a certain program (ahem  ;))
Thanks, will try later :y

TBH, as it was getting really wet, and the light was going, and my back was killing me, and the backs of my legs were finding muscles not used since I was little, I was more than willing to stop and have another look today.  Its all back together (seemingly correctly!), which was my target for yesterday, so I was pleased with that :)
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #78 on: 20 August 2007, 09:07:38 »

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PICS!? :)
Hmmm, I think if I had got a camera, and asked Omegatoy to say cheese, when if was holding the engine up, with that annoying sharp piece of bodywork digging in his arm, I think it is very possible he would have lumped me  :o
I have a few pics on my phone  ::) I'll try & post them tomorrow.
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« Reply #79 on: 20 August 2007, 09:10:57 »

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in spite of all the problems and setbacks I would do it again!! :-[
:o - I'm sure there is some therapy group for people who can't resist spending their Saturdays in the wet and cold trying to get engines in and out...

I bet next time, you will stick by your guns and bring the box out with the motor - I wish we had now ;)


Seriously, I agree with Omegatoy, a good day, I giggle was had by all, obviously mainly at Tunnies expense ;D

I take it he was the one that kept getting soaked ;D ;D........Tunnie, you should always keep a fimbles brollie handy in the boot of the car :y ;D
Bo Bo was in charge of the brolly to keep tunnie dry, but within half a second of opening it, he broke it, much to the amusement of everyone else ;D

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Well there was a huge gust of wind  ::)
« Last Edit: 20 August 2007, 09:20:20 by paulmccristall »
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #80 on: 20 August 2007, 09:37:39 »

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So a massive thankyou to Omegatoy, Kevin Wood, LFF64, Bo Bo, and Tunnie, for your time, your effort, your skills, and your commradeship today.  Personally, despite the fact the rather car is possessed by some evil spirit, I had a very enjoyable day.  Bloody knackered now though.

Thank you :y
I agree, despite being cold & wet I enjoyed the whole day (well apart from the drive home, boy was I cold  :().

Was great to meet LFF64 & Omegatoy (that's one fast tractor  :y) & I learnt a few things  :)
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #81 on: 20 August 2007, 13:12:14 »

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So a massive thankyou to Omegatoy, Kevin Wood, LFF64, Bo Bo, and Tunnie, for your time, your effort, your skills, and your commradeship today.  Personally, despite the fact the rather car is possessed by some evil spirit, I had a very enjoyable day.  Bloody knackered now though.

Thank you :y
I agree, despite being cold & wet I enjoyed the whole day (well apart from the drive home, boy was I cold  :().

Was great to meet LFF64 & Omegatoy (that's one fast tractor  :y) & I learnt a few things  :)
Sometimes it helps with understanding to see a car stripped like that.  Makes things easier in the future I reckon.  For instance, no way would I have attempted removal of, for example, PAS pump.  Having seen it now, it is so easy.  I'm glad you got some new knowledge from it, although I know we spent most of the afternoon/evening getting the box on :(
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #82 on: 20 August 2007, 13:48:12 »

Still waiting for some strip-down pics to add to my collection....  ;)
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #83 on: 20 August 2007, 14:12:43 »

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Still waiting for some strip-down pics to add to my collection....  ;)
None taken, but plan is to lift old engine on hoist, and take some from all angles....   ....but need to wait until someone strong enough to help move to where I can get hoist on it...
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #84 on: 20 August 2007, 14:21:02 »

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Still waiting for some strip-down pics to add to my collection....  ;)
Here's one to keep you going....
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #85 on: 20 August 2007, 14:22:51 »

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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #86 on: 20 August 2007, 14:52:44 »

Added to the collection and will be re-used as needed...  ;)
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #87 on: 20 August 2007, 17:31:34 »

I think I would have moved the hammer  ;D I have just emptied the water out of my toolbox and just spent the last hour drying the tools out  :)  
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #88 on: 20 August 2007, 18:43:24 »

Where there some fuel pipes mising from the donor as there look to be some missing off the old engine ?
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #89 on: 20 August 2007, 19:02:24 »

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Where there some fuel pipes mising from the donor as there look to be some missing off the old engine ?
No, had to remove to get the loom out, as the stupid BMW designers obviously somehow thought it would be a marvellous idea to trap the cable box under them....
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