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[Darth Loo-knee]

Kate.
I have some Oil Cooler Plate sealer here, I would need to call and get some dowty washers, then Captain Zok and Myself would come up and do this cooler plate for ya Saturday.
But are you saying the Cambelt and Tensioners need doing? If so, we or you would need to get the bits so we can do it too.....
We obviously wouldn't want any thing for doing it but would ask for my petrol.
Cheers
Daz

[Kate]

Kate.
I have some Oil Cooler Plate sealer here, I would need to call and get some dowty washers, then Captain Zok and Myself would come up and do this cooler plate for ya Saturday.
But are you saying the Cambelt and Tensioners need doing? If so, we or you would need to get the bits so we can do it too.....
We obviously wouldn't want any thing for doing it but would ask for my petrol.
Cheers
Daz

Thats really nice of you Daz, thanks very much.  

Unfortunately I took the car to the garage today so they are supposed to be doing the work.

They reckon it is the water pump but said they would do the cambelt at the same time.  I don't trust them really to be honest but they have got the car now and have started the work.

I really appreciate your offer and I know just know that something else is going to go wrong right away.

I'll let you know what happens.  It'll probably need even more work.

Thanks very much Daz, you're the best!

[Kate]

Well do you want the bad news or the even worse news?

Got a call from the garage today.  It's not the water pump as they said.  They took the car to bits and said that one of the cylinders was knackered and they said something about reskimming.

They said it would cost about £700 and they weren't sure if they could do it.  I haven't got £700 anyway and the car is not even worth that.

So the work is costing me £100 and the car is knackered.

I'm really pi**ed off now as I have no car.  I did share a Beetle with my friend that I live with but it's going to be off the road soon due to needing welding for its MOT.

I'm sick as a chip.

[Kevin Wood]

I wouldn't be too disheartened just yet. It sounds like the usual "must be the head gasket" rubbish that garages come out with when they can't be bothered or lack the skills to investigate further.

I'd tell them to put it all back together and take Loo Knee and CaptainZok up on their offer. Most likely to be the oil cooler cover plate still.

Kevin

[Kate]

I wouldn't be too disheartened just yet. It sounds like the usual "must be the head gasket" rubbish that garages come out with when they can't be bothered or lack the skills to investigate further.

I'd tell them to put it all back together and take Loo Knee and CaptainZok up on their offer. Most likely to be the oil cooler cover plate still.

Kevin

Thanks Kevin. Do you think it is the oil cooler plate?

I suggested that to the mechainic and he seemed adamant that it wasn't?

[Kevin Wood]

I wouldn't be too disheartened just yet. It sounds like the usual "must be the head gasket" rubbish that garages come out with when they can't be bothered or lack the skills to investigate further.

I'd tell them to put it all back together and take Loo Knee and CaptainZok up on their offer. Most likely to be the oil cooler cover plate still.

Kevin

Thanks Kevin. Do you think it is the oil cooler plate?

I suggested that to the mechainic and he seemed adamant that it wasn't?

Depends :-/

It's possible he's done a thorough job of diagnosing it and indeed found that it's not the oil cooler.

On the other hand (and more likely IMHO) he's not prepared to strip the engine down far enough so that he can SEE the oil cooler until he's landed a £700 quid job.

I would get sopmeone who knows these engines (i.e and OOF'er) give it a once over before condemning it. On the balance of probabilities, the oil cooler plate is a much more likely problem, specially as the incorrect sealant has been observed in that area.

Kevin

[shyboy]

Arrange for it to be towed back to your address as it is , with all parts intact, and let LK and the Captain investigate things as per their very generous offer. I'm sure they'll be able to diagnose properly, and if it's already stripped down the jobs will be so much easier/quicker. If you can get the tensioner and pulleys on Trade Club, it will save a lot of money.
If the garage doesn't hand you a new belt in its packaging make sure they haven't charged you.
Good luck,
Bill.

[Kate]

Well if Loo Knee and Captain Zok are willing to come on Saturday I will gladly pay the petrol and parts etc.

That is so nice of them.

My friend and I will make some food (do you like corned beef pie?) and I've got some home made wine (for taking home)!

Otherwise the car will have to go to the scrapyard.

[Andy B]

......
But are you saying the Cambelt and Tensioners need doing? If so, we or you would need to get the bits so we can do it too.......

If you get into cam belts etc & you need a cam lock kit I'm only down the road from John/CpnZok.

[Elite Pete]

I think both CapnZok and Loo-Knee have got one.

[Kate]

Thanks for all your help.

Just got the car back and the 'report' says: 1. poss. o/s cylinder 2. head gasket leak.

So it's this that needs sorting really, rather than the cambelt.

I hope it's the oil cooler as head gasket problems sound fatal to me.

 

[markey mark]

so have they removed one of you cylinder heads kate ?? if so you are gona need headgasket set !! of wich they will have had no bussiness in doing so !

[ians]

I didn't read it that way Mark..

I hope they didn't charge you Kate, given that their original diagnosis was so far off the mark (although I'm afraid they did..)

There second diagnosis is almost certainly wrong - did they expain why they now thought HG was the problem?  I don't see why bore wear would cause an external coolant leak anyway.

Very frustrating.

I suspect that as you now have a car running hotter (as the stat is fixed), this has now caused something else to leak - possibly the cooler plate as suggested.   Its worth shining a torch around the engine - particularly round the back (if you stand next to the drivers side wheel) to see if you can see moisture higher up.  Down at the sump it could have come from anywhere.

[FRE07962128]

Hi everyone.  Had my thermostat done at  the cambelt party and now it's leaking coolant really badly.

Do you think it will be the coming from the thermostat housing or transfer pipe? Or could there be another source?

Any help would be greatly appreciated as I can only drive a couple of miles without overheating.



Thanks very much!

Did you replace the gasket between the thermostat casing and engine, if there was one?#

Lizzie Zoom x  

[ffcgary1]

If it says poss No 1 cylinder head gasket they have not removed the head and if they had they would have seen a problem or not, so you can rule out hg failure. I will put my money on a oil cooler plate leak, and the car is not ready for the scrapper yet. As kevin has said they do not want to strip it down untill you have agreed to spending loads of hard earned, and then they find the leaking plate and they are ££££ in.