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Re: Boycott / Petrol Prices
« Reply #15 on: 19 October 2007, 00:49:45 »

 :-?I usually fill up @ supermarket forecourts but who supplies them? :-/
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« Reply #16 on: 19 October 2007, 15:04:18 »

Just a thought. Are you cretain this is not just another virus spreading scam?
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« Reply #17 on: 19 October 2007, 17:30:02 »

I wondered that.  Its certainly a chain/pyramid letter.
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« Reply #18 on: 19 October 2007, 17:50:16 »

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Idea seems sound & i know they all make mega bucks from us drivers but if BP, Shell & the like are announcing annual pre tax profits of  around 12 - 15 billion pounds & it is all a cartel i just wondered if anyone knew how much the government rakes in on duty & VAT over the last financial year, me thinks it would be a bit more

As said before, approx 70% of the petrol price is Tax.
Also, the Oil companies get taxed at source on the crude oil that they produce.

BP is a global company, so it makes its money from around the globe, not just the
UK. It brings Billions of £'s into the UK coffers. Not just in Tax either. Your Pension
plan will own BP shares and will be receiving millions of £'s a year in dividends and
share price appreciation over the years.

The Oil companies are not the enemy here.

Asia, China, India, Russia, South America etc.. are expanding and coming into their
own industrial age, similar to what the Western countries have already achieved.
This is causing an exponential increase in the demand for Oil. At the current rate
of demand increase there will not be enough Oil to go around without finding more
deposits. Hence the current round of Wars and nationalisation/ repatriation  of Oil
and Commodity companies around the World.
As the price increases it makes economic sense to extract the Oil from the Tar Sands
in Canada. Without the price rise it wouldn't be economically viable. This is bringing
other alternative energies into play, such as wind and solar power. The more you
can reduce the demand for Oil, the less reliant you are on the Oil producing countries.
They can't hold you to Ransom.

The Government needs to reduce Oil and Gas demand, hence the Tax prices to try
and reduce folk using so much. It's nothing to do with 'Green' ecological consciences.

It's also why George Bush has attacked Iraq and is threatening Iran. He needs to secure
America's Oil supply until America is less reliant on it, otherwise America's enemies
will have him literally over a barrel and America's economy will be ruined.

Everything is wheels within wheels and boils down to power and finance.
This e-mail will have as much effect as pi**ing in the wind.

A very wise and Interesting view, a view that i have, (up to now) never taken into concideration.

I must say that i tend to agree with you.
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Re: Boycott / Petrol Prices
« Reply #19 on: 19 October 2007, 18:31:14 »

Thanks, Sir Crazydad, I was beginning to feel like the lone voice
crying in the wilderness.  :)
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« Reply #20 on: 19 October 2007, 18:44:49 »

If anyone is interested in how 'Peak Oil' is likely to effect them in regard
to lifestyle, finance or politics, have a read of the following link.

Some reckon we're already at 'Peak Oil', some reckon it's 20yrs away.
Either way, the effects have already begun. It just depends on how far
down the road we are.

We live in interesting times.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_oil
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Re: Boycott / Petrol Prices
« Reply #21 on: 19 October 2007, 18:45:23 »

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Just a thought. Are you cretain this is not just another virus spreading scam?

Maybe! Fear not, I've c&p'd it into the forum as text... it passed my Norton.  It's also passed our company virus guard...

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« Reply #22 on: 25 October 2007, 21:39:07 »

Oil now over $90 a barrel.

OPEC either can't or wont increase production as promised by Saudi Arabia.
Let's hope the other OPEC members are dragging their feet so as to keep
the price up, because if it's a case of they can't increase production
then life is going to start to get very difficult.

http://money.aol.com/news/articles/_a/oil-tops-90-on-opec-report/20071025152909990001


Note that George Bush is also upping the verbals on Iran, and is trying to
sneak a bill through congress for money for Bunker Busting bombs.
There's only one place these bombs could be used at...........and we all
know where that is, don't we?

http://www.liberalavenger.com/2007/10/25/bush-request-includes-bunker-busters-stealth-bombers/

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« Reply #23 on: 25 October 2007, 21:47:18 »

To give you some perspective, 3 yrs ago Oil was approx $40.

Edit. Link deleted as chart wouldn't show correctly.

« Last Edit: 25 October 2007, 21:48:42 by Grumpy »
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Re: Boycott / Petrol Prices
« Reply #24 on: 25 October 2007, 21:57:13 »

This Monday, Tesco reintroduced their 5p/litre off if £50 is spent in store. Got to be worthwhile, given the prices these days.
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« Reply #25 on: 25 October 2007, 22:09:05 »

I've always subscribed to the "Clarkson" point of view on this matter. But I think it's coming to the point where we all have to take responsibility for the future. When I look at my 8 year olds angelic little face, I do wonder what his future is going to be.
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« Reply #26 on: 25 October 2007, 22:17:20 »

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Idea seems sound & i know they all make mega bucks from us drivers but if BP, Shell & the like are announcing annual pre tax profits of  around 12 - 15 billion pounds & it is all a cartel i just wondered if anyone knew how much the government rakes in on duty & VAT over the last financial year, me thinks it would be a bit more

As said before, approx 70% of the petrol price is Tax.
Also, the Oil companies get taxed at source on the crude oil that they produce.

BP is a global company, so it makes its money from around the globe, not just the
UK. It brings Billions of £'s into the UK coffers. Not just in Tax either. Your Pension
plan will own BP shares and will be receiving millions of £'s a year in dividends and
share price appreciation over the years.

The Oil companies are not the enemy here.

Asia, China, India, Russia, South America etc.. are expanding and coming into their
own industrial age, similar to what the Western countries have already achieved.
This is causing an exponential increase in the demand for Oil. At the current rate
of demand increase there will not be enough Oil to go around without finding more
deposits. Hence the current round of Wars and nationalisation/ repatriation  of Oil
and Commodity companies around the World.
As the price increases it makes economic sense to extract the Oil from the Tar Sands
in Canada. Without the price rise it wouldn't be economically viable. This is bringing
other alternative energies into play, such as wind and solar power. The more you
can reduce the demand for Oil, the less reliant you are on the Oil producing countries.
They can't hold you to Ransom.

The Government needs to reduce Oil and Gas demand, hence the Tax prices to try
and reduce folk using so much. It's nothing to do with 'Green' ecological consciences.

It's also why George Bush has attacked Iraq and is threatening Iran. He needs to secure
America's Oil supply until America is less reliant on it, otherwise America's enemies
will have him literally over a barrel and America's economy will be ruined.

Everything is wheels within wheels and boils down to power and finance.
This e-mail will have as much effect as pi**ing in the wind.


I think that you will find that Russia & S.America are net exporters.

The momentum on fuel tax was lost when they allowed Blair off the hook. It will never be allowed to happen again.

supermarket fuel  30% ethanol is it so cheap :question


Now all you folk who agreed with the smoking ban are starting to pay the tax. ouch


The only way it will alter is via the ballot box.
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