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[TheBoy]

sounds like its already been heli-coiled and heli-coil has lost its bite. try putting a prize bar between plug and sump and see if it will bite whist unscrewing.

helicoils wouldn't fail like that...

[Andy B]

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 anyone know what i can expect to be hit in the wallet?
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About £40 +vat IIRC and it comes with a new sump plug. Make sure you're quoted for the lower sump pan, because I think they call the big ally casting it fastens to 'the sump'
If I was more organised I'd be able to find the receipt for mine .... but I'm not    

[feeutfo]

fairly sure i sore a thread on here about this, sump plug screws into a nut welded to the sump pan. Over tightening caused the weld to brake and plug and nut just span around in the sump. I think he got a new sump in the end, price not to bad. Worth a search maybe? Hth

[Andy B]

fairly sure i sore a thread on here about this, sump plug screws into a nut welded to the sump pan. Over tightening caused the weld to brake and plug and nut just span around in the sump. I think he got a new sump in the end, price not to bad. Worth a search maybe? Hth

The steel sump pan has an ally insert pressed into it that carries the thread that the plug screws into.

[humbucker]

ordered parts. pan, sealant and replacement bolts. Pan was 35 quid with trade card. Not too bad. Is it just a case of unscrewing the existin pan, droppin the oil and then screwin the new one in with sealant. No other parts to bugger about with?

[Lazydocker]

ordered parts. pan, sealant and replacement bolts. Pan was 35 quid with trade card. Not too bad. Is it just a case of unscrewing the existin pan, droppin the oil and then screwin the new one in with sealant. No other parts to bugger about with?

I'd have a good clean up whilst the sumps off... Ideal opportunity to clean the pick up strainer

[humbucker]

ordered parts. pan, sealant and replacement bolts. Pan was 35 quid with trade card. Not too bad. Is it just a case of unscrewing the existin pan, droppin the oil and then screwin the new one in with sealant. No other parts to bugger about with?

I'd have a good clean up whilst the sumps off... Ideal opportunity to clean the pick up strainer

but i dont need to take anything else off to get the sump off? i read that on some older vehicles you need to replace a load of stuff before you can get the sump pan out but when i look at it it looks like just a few bolts and out.

[Andy B]

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but i dont need to take anything else off to get the sump off?  .....

Just be carefull of the wiring to the low oil level sensor, it'll be brittle & easily broken.

[humbucker]

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but i dont need to take anything else off to get the sump off?  .....

Just be carefull of the wiring to the low oil level sensor, it'll be brittle & easily broken.

good advice. thanks for this, i'll be sure to watch out.

*sigh* it never rains but it pours (oil)  

[FRE07962128]

Just a quick question on all this; can you drop the sump off the miggy engine without lifting it in any way? :-/ :-/

[TheBoy]

Just a quick question on all this; can you drop the sump off the miggy engine without lifting it in any way? :-/ :-/

I'm far to fat to get under cars without lifting, but Tunnie probably could

[Elite Pete]

I would have tried a new plug first and if that works you have saved a few bob.

[FRE07962128]

Just a quick question on all this; can you drop the sump off the miggy engine without lifting it in any way? :-/ :-/

I'm far to fat to get under cars without lifting, but Tunnie probably could

I meant the engine being lifted TB!!

[humbucker]

I would have tried a new plug first and if that works you have saved a few bob.

from the way the plug is moving im pretty sure its the nut on the inside thats busted. you can see interior shot here:



plug comes with sump pan anyway and on tc not really too much of a hit in the wallet. they dont have it in stock of course and i've got to wait til weds til i can pick it up but hopefully i'll get it sorted on thurs and will report back with some kind of triumph.

cue motorbike/tr7/herald jokes....  

[humbucker]

Just a quick question on all this; can you drop the sump off the miggy engine without lifting it in any way? :-/ :-/

as long as you jack it up a bit you should have enough room. jacking will also put the oil towards one end of the sump pan if you've got it high enough which should help when taking the tinker off (if like me you cant drain it cos the plug is stuck). at least you can try and control the direction of the oil before it spills everywhere!!!!

it all looks good on paper as they say....  

'course mrs ilovemyelite will have a less enthusiastic opinion should i p1ss oil all over the drive!