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Re: Advice please
« Reply #15 on: 31 October 2007, 08:58:10 »

Ow yes.....very worth it
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« Reply #16 on: 31 October 2007, 09:01:04 »

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Thanks Mark

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« Reply #17 on: 31 October 2007, 09:01:39 »

Slightly sharper picture.......plus obviously a bigger screen
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« Reply #18 on: 31 October 2007, 09:07:53 »

Im not to bothered about the bigger screen we dont watch that much TV but if the picture quality is better then its easier to justify (to the wife) ;)
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« Reply #19 on: 31 October 2007, 09:13:00 »

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Im am about to buy myself a new TV and was going to order this unless someone knows of a better TV for a similar price :y

http://www.bedirect.co.uk/showproduct.php?cda=showproduct&pid=SAM-LE37M87BDX

My sister has had a 32" windscreen HD ready thing from Asda only £349..... so when mine goes wrong I am down there :y
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« Reply #20 on: 31 October 2007, 09:31:13 »

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Im am about to buy myself a new TV and was going to order this unless someone knows of a better TV for a similar price :y

http://www.bedirect.co.uk/showproduct.php?cda=showproduct&pid=SAM-LE37M87BDX

My sister has had a 32" windscreen HD ready thing from Asda only £349..... so when mine goes wrong I am down there :y

HD ready and true HD are very different things......
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« Reply #21 on: 31 October 2007, 10:03:13 »

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Im am about to buy myself a new TV and was going to order this unless someone knows of a better TV for a similar price :y

http://www.bedirect.co.uk/showproduct.php?cda=showproduct&pid=SAM-LE37M87BDX

My sister has had a 32" windscreen HD ready thing from Asda only £349..... so when mine goes wrong I am down there :y

HD ready and true HD are very different things......

Oh :-[ whats the difference then Mark... Its just the picture is great, sound and price I thought was good too :)
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« Reply #22 on: 31 October 2007, 14:01:22 »

The whole HD thing is quite confusing. I will try and give a basic answer.

True HD is a signal broadcast at 1,920 x 1080 pixels. This can only be done by digital TV (1080i) or another high definition source such as a games console (X Box 360 or PS3) or a high definition dvd player.

There are 2 levels, 1080i and 1080p.

1080i refers to 1080 interlacing and 1080p refers to progressive. I won't bore you with the techincals...
Progressive will give a better picture, but in reality the difference is minimal to the eye.
Be aware also that digital HD TV broadcasts will only be in 1080i for a long time to come as 1080p requires much more bandwidth to transmit.
1080p is the standard on the new dvd's though.... whichever one wins the format war (Blu-ray v HD Dvd).


There are basically 3 levels of "HD" televisions.

1. Standard "HD Ready" TV's have a resolution of 1280 x 720 pixels. Commonly known as 720p
They will look impressive against a normal tv.
Downside is they will take full hd signal and downscale it to 720p as they cannot display at the higher resolution

2. "True HD 1080i". These tv's can reproduce full HD but produce a slightly less sharp picture than the 1080p tv's. Note, when I say slightly we are talking negligible difference. It is just the different technology used.
Put a full HD signal in and you are rewarded with an amazing image.

3. "True HD 1080p". These are the latest HD tv's producing a stunning quality picture when you supply a proper HD signal. If you can afford them (and the prices are dropping all the time), they are the ones to go for.

Ultimately it is a question of how much you want to spend, and just how good you want the picture to look.

  
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« Reply #23 on: 31 October 2007, 15:02:27 »

This still needs a bit more clarity...

HD Ready - simply means that the TV will display HD pictures from a HD source (HD Sky box etc).
This can be likened to all TVs being "Freeview Ready", connect a freeview box to it and away you go, newer TVs come with this built-in.  Until a TV is built with a universal HD Decoder built into it, they are all just HD-Ready.

That is before you start discussing 720i, 720p, 1080i 1080p ..
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« Reply #24 on: 31 October 2007, 15:38:23 »

Then there's the extra cost for receiving HD content from Sky.

A rip off in my opinion.  >:(
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« Reply #25 on: 02 November 2007, 06:02:39 »

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What HD content!?!  ;D ;) As you probably know, most is crudely upscaled.

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Complete bull$hit i'm afraid max. Did 'Which?' magaine send you? MANY years ago some very early models suffered with panel problems but now, their lifespan is probably greater than ours >50,000hrs (claimed)! Contrast ratios can also be better on plasma.

What to buy? It's all subjective, but I probably wouldn't buy a £1000 telly online without seeing what the picture is like, regardless of the quoted specification.  :-? Get yourself to a shop for a gander. It's like buying a ferrari because it's the fastest, sleekest, most expensive - then you find out it gives you backache.

I've seen plenty of expensive tellys that have offered very poor performance in some conditions, likewise, I have seen a surprising amount of cheaper tellys that represent excellent value for money. I think you need to go through a few questions - how big is your room? What are you watching on it? Have you got sky? Is it going on a wall -kids? etc etc.

And Mark, yes Argos may be more expensive, they are a bricks and mortar retailer that has overheads to meet. But when your thousand quid panel goes wrong in 6 months I know damn sure that it's easier to take back to argos and stick it in their hands for a replacement rather than (hopefully!) dealing with some unknown, having to box it all back up (at your expense) and stay in all day for courier, waiting for 3 week diagnosis and then realising that they've gone out of business. It happens.
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« Reply #26 on: 02 November 2007, 08:34:34 »

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And Mark, yes Argos may be more expensive, they are a bricks and mortar retailer that has overheads to meet. But when your thousand quid panel goes wrong in 6 months I know damn sure that it's easier to take back to argos and stick it in their hands for a replacement rather than (hopefully!) dealing with some unknown, having to box it all back up (at your expense) and stay in all day for courier, waiting for 3 week diagnosis and then realising that they've gone out of business. It happens.

Nope, much easier to return it to a Samsung service centre (which is how the Samsung warranty works) than work with Argos.......plus I spent a good hour in Comet before hand playing with all the TV's (and realy annoying the crap out of them) before making the decision becuase the pictures you see in the shops are what they want you to see, try getting th remote and checking out the images you will realy see at home and not some blue ray source they are using (note, you cant do this in Argos!)

Plasma is a poor format for true HD as it struggles with higher resolution pictures due to the production technology. The electronics also run much hotter thanks to the high voltage pre-charge, strike and discharge cycles requried for every pixel.

LCD contrast ratios now equal most plasmas.

Its a no brainer.......for an engineer ;)
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« Reply #27 on: 02 November 2007, 10:10:09 »

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What HD content!?!  Grin Wink As you probably know, most is crudely upscaled.

Most stuff on Sky suffers from issues more basic than picture quality, IMHO. The quality of the programme content, the production standards, volume of advertising and even the picture quality of the SD channels is far below what is achieveable, due to the low bit rate allocated to all but the mainstream channels.

So picture quality is actually way down the list as far as I'm concerned. The only thing that interests me about HD is when the DVD format wars die down it'll be nice for watching films.

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« Reply #28 on: 02 November 2007, 10:53:38 »

Hi dont know if you have placed your order yet but the best price i found for the samsung tv belive it or not was from dixons on line the samsung has a great picture (in my opinion) also dont konw if you know this but get the one that has X as the last digit in the modle number this means its the 100hz set.
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