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djw1983

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lowering
« on: 16 April 2009, 17:39:31 »

im thinking of lowering my omega have seen lowering clamps are they ok to use or am i better off with the springs? :-?
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SJKOO01

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Re: lowering
« Reply #1 on: 16 April 2009, 17:50:21 »

Hi.

Personally I would use proper lowed spring kit, there work properly as they should because they've been designed to. And safer to.

The clamps are a cheap way of doing it, but I wouldn't recommend it. And I'm sure others would say the same.

Oh.... And if you were to have an accident, and it was found that the spring clamps were to blame because it made the car behave in way it was designed to, not only would your insurance company have an instant excuse for not paying you a penny out in comp, if the police were involved, they could procecute you for having a vehicle not in a safe condition.

Not saying it will happen, and hope it doesn't, most sevear case I know, but a really good reason for not going the clamp route would be if you value your life, and your friends / family, I'd go the proper spring kit route.

If you look on other threads, there is other advice about lowering, and it appears that down 35mm less on standard shocks okay, any further and good idea to get matching shocks to. May as well if your changing the springs at the same time ?!.

But as always, ...... the choice is yours chap.

Drive safe   :y
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SJKOO01

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« Reply #2 on: 16 April 2009, 17:52:20 »

This should of said "to blame because it made the car behave in way it wasn't designed to ...... Opps !
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Lizzie_Zoom

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« Reply #3 on: 16 April 2009, 17:54:10 »

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Hi.

Personally I would use proper lowed spring kit, there work properly as they should because they've been designed to. And safer to.

The clamps are a cheap way of doing it, but I wouldn't recommend it. And I'm sure others would say the same.

Oh.... And if you were to have an accident, and it was found that the spring clamps were to blame because it made the car behave in way it was designed to, not only would your insurance company have an instant excuse for not paying you a penny out in comp, if the police were involved, they could procecute you for having a vehicle not in a safe condition.

Not saying it will happen, and hope it doesn't, most sevear case I know, but a really good reason for not going the clamp route would be if you value your life, and your friends / family, I'd go the proper spring kit route.

If you look on other threads, there is other advice about lowering, and it appears that down 35mm less on standard shocks okay, any further and good idea to get matching shocks to. May as well if your changing the springs at the same time ?!.

But as always, ...... the choice is yours chap.

Drive safe   :y


Around my way there are too many "speed bumps" that can take out anything in the way underneath, so I think that should always be a consideration when lowering. :-? :-?  Let's face it racing / sports cars that are on low suspension are designed for race tracks where speed bumps don't exist! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;)

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SJKOO01

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« Reply #4 on: 16 April 2009, 18:04:32 »

Hey Lizzie.

Good point.

Also perhaps we ought to petition the government to contract out the same people that lay down race track tarmac to take over the contracts for us people on the public roads.
After all the damn race tracks are in better condition, no pot holes to.

There again how did that beer ad use to go; If Carling did.....

M  :y
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Re: lowering
« Reply #5 on: 16 April 2009, 19:34:37 »

Interesting comments here , if you do lower your car , when your insurance is due and they ask has it been modified , do you mention it ?
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« Reply #6 on: 16 April 2009, 19:35:57 »

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Interesting comments here , if you do lower your car , when your insurance is due and they ask has it been modified , do you mention it ?

My estate is 30mm down and I told my insurance when I added it. They told me they weren't interested  :-? Worth asking though :y
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Lizzie_Zoom

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« Reply #7 on: 16 April 2009, 19:37:32 »

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Interesting comments here , if you do lower your car , when your insurance is due and they ask has it been modified , do you mention it ?


Yes Dave you must otherwise, as has been said, your insurance will be null and void.  This is a modification and must be declared.  It certainly puts the car at greater risk of damage, which the insurance company must base their premiums on. 8-) 8-)
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Re: lowering
« Reply #8 on: 16 April 2009, 19:43:07 »

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Hey Lizzie.

Good point.

Also perhaps we ought to petition the government to contract out the same people that lay down race track tarmac to take over the contracts for us people on the public roads.
After all the damn race tracks are in better condition, no pot holes to.

There again how did that beer ad use to go; If Carling did.....

M  :y


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Re: lowering
« Reply #9 on: 16 April 2009, 21:37:45 »

The spring clamps you are reffering to to compress the the coils together to lower the car should in my opinion be outlawed. If one was to fail at high speed you could have a serious accident.
Years back people used to weld coils together for the same effect, it usually ended in tears.

If your wanting to lower it use a proper kit, you may have too modify your bump stops and depending on how low you go get the alignment checked or you will eat tyres also go for progressive rate springs otherwise it may ruin the ride quality.

If you stick to lowering about 20 or 25mm nothing else should be affected.

As for the insurance thats your call wether you tell or not but if you go for a set of 20mm black springs instead of 60mm bright red ones who's ever going too know.
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Martin_1962

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« Reply #10 on: 16 April 2009, 21:43:57 »

I have an Eibach set and it was aligned after fitting
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SJKOO01

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« Reply #11 on: 16 April 2009, 21:53:25 »

Seriously chap, don't go down the 'clamps' route, as others have said, not a good practice, was a common mod years ago, but as proven not a very safe one.

Best get what you want done properly at the end of the day, you only have one life, make it a good safe loooong one.

M   :y
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« Reply #12 on: 16 April 2009, 22:02:16 »

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I have an Eibach set and it was aligned after fitting

There about the best to go for imo, how much they lowered by as I'm thinking about lowering the facelift estate but don't wan't much 1" at the most.
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Martin_1962

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« Reply #13 on: 17 April 2009, 09:18:51 »

About 30mm but I raised the back slightly (LPG tank to a 25mm drop)
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