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[tmx]

they wont compare to a modern diesel mate and thats a fact no common rail injection

unchipped they are a joke! lethargic and very slow!

the 3.0v6 deffinatly has more pulling power and pulls a hell of alot more especially in manual guise

that pissat will have the clever twin turbo engine in it hence the massive tourqe i believe they are nearly pushing 150bhp now

[TheBoy]

i love my v6 but am really really considering a Td next - how do they compare to modern diesels? i just love the torque on our company passat, the fact that you can really shift without to much effort is what is swaying me - torque on v6 seems to be somewhat lacking :-/

I detest that vag 1.9 diesel with a passion, but on its narrow power band, it can accelerate (in 130bhp form, or higher )

The VAG is more economical, but much smaller, lighter car

[DC]

Despite my age I am guilty of changing up as early as 1800/2000revs when in sofa mode (often in Omega). When i first got Omega and saw that I am driving around at 1200 revs i thought something was wrong with the rev-counter.
On the other side, when my Golf I cabrio is nicely warmed-up I often rev it up to 5000 - just cause I enjoy it.

BTW, don't take me wrong - I actually don't drive much - on average 12k km per year. If it was around 20k (12k miles) or more, I would obviously drive a diesel cause it makes sence financially.

[HerefordElite]

i love my v6 but am really really considering a Td next - how do they compare to modern diesels? i just love the torque on our company passat, the fact that you can really shift without to much effort is what is swaying me - torque on v6 seems to be somewhat lacking :-/

I detest that vag 1.9 diesel with a passion, but on its narrow power band, it can accelerate (in 130bhp form, or higher )

The VAG is more economical, but much smaller, lighter car

well IMHO the VAG tdgti130 and above are fantastic engines an absolute pleasure to drive

and i appreciate the bargeness of a mig (i've had mine 5 years now )

and obviously would get it chipped

[DC]

I detest that vag 1.9 diesel with a passion, but on its narrow power band, it can accelerate (in 130bhp form, or higher )

The VAG is more economical, but much smaller, lighter car

Totally agree! I have driven it in a Golf IV estate - it was a 110 or 115ps version). You really have to be carefull it is allways in its power band - it is either all or nothing. Very economical and very noisy!

[cem_devecioglu]

My neighbour have a diesel passat really economical..

But when the temperatures drop to -15 C.. I start to have a smile in my face

[tmx]

ive also driven a golf GT TDi 130 and they are a rocket! until you hit 5th

[HerefordElite]

ive also driven a golf GT TDi 130 and they are a rocket! until you hit 5th

had to drive one down to southampton and back to get some bits for work - i think i left it in 4th all the way

[TheBoy]

i love my v6 but am really really considering a Td next - how do they compare to modern diesels? i just love the torque on our company passat, the fact that you can really shift without to much effort is what is swaying me - torque on v6 seems to be somewhat lacking :-/

I detest that vag 1.9 diesel with a passion, but on its narrow power band, it can accelerate (in 130bhp form, or higher )

The VAG is more economical, but much smaller, lighter car

well IMHO the VAG tdgti130 and above are fantastic engines an absolute pleasure to drive

and i appreciate the bargeness of a mig (i've had mine 5 years now )

and obviously would get it chipped

Chip 'em to about 140ish, and they start to smoke too bad for MOT. Chip 'em beyond 170ish, and the drive train melts...

[DC]

To comment on ths:

torque on v6 seems to be somewhat lacking

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Sure, but I think GM exagerated the problem even more with galactic gear ratios. I find 2.5 V6 gutless when I drive on Swiss motorways where you don't dare to venture over 130kmph. Unless you are crazy enough not to use top 2 gears! Once I am across the border, in direction towards Karlsruhe, the car becomes responsive at speeds over 160kmph. It is efortless between 160 and 200kmph - resposive under right foot but rock stable otherwise.

[tmx]

my 3.0 has bags of tourqe Jake  must be that slushbox eating all the tourqes away

[HerefordElite]

my 3.0 has bags of tourqe Jake  must be that slushbox eating all the tourqes away

you've hit the nail on the head i think Tom, slush box = missing torque.

i'll have to try you mv6 out

[tmx]

when its fixed you can have ago!

its abit sick atm needs exhaust redoing and the rocker covers!! some nice jobs for me in the next few weeks

[cem_devecioglu]

To comment on ths:

torque on v6 seems to be somewhat lacking

.
Sure, but I think GM exagerated the problem even more with galactic gear ratios. I find 2.5 V6 gutless when I drive on Swiss motorways where you don't dare to venture over 130kmph. Unless you are crazy enough not to use top 2 gears! Once I am across the border, in direction towards Karlsruhe, the car becomes responsive at speeds over 160kmph. It is efortless between 160 and 200kmph - resposive under right foot but rock stable otherwise.

yep..as mine is auto I feel acceleration after 80 km/hr as it locks..

[semisheen]

Ive started somthing off here havent i ??
but at least ive got an answer to my question
Ultimatly petrol and diesel cars have come along way each to there own there are no winners
i allways wanted an omega & now ive got 1 at last i find it a good looking car comfy well put together good smilles to the gallon & that ll do for me