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[Martin_1962]

V6 on LPG

[Stoph]

Mine suits me fine, particularly now it's been chipped by the lads on here.

In un-chipped form, they're 130 BHP, and performance is disappointing. Apparently, the chip sends it back to BMW spec of 163 BHP. It's now very good, suits us fine, and locally attains a proven 33 mpg. When towing our 22' caravan, I find that it's slightly lack-lustre in the lower rev range, but kept 'on song' it'll pull like a train. I've modified my driving technique to largely overcome this.

Standard BMW output is 143 BHP

In the 3 series yes, but in the 5 series it was 163bhp

Have to disagree with you Platty... the early 525TDSas fitted in e34 and e39 5 series  is 143bhp, its the later 2001 onwards common rail jobbie thats 163..
Thanks for the comments so far, I think I will find the good in whatever car comes along in the right condition at the right price, I do like low down torque but take on board the possible reliability issues with the dti.... hoping this is only on the poorly serviced ones... Will see if I can get a drive in both over next couple of weeks and see where I go from there... chipping the td for £70 sounds good if I go that way... who do I talk to about that??
Nice busy sight this... plenty to keep me away from work

Cheers

Chris

[Stoph]

V6 on LPG

Still a possible but looking at all the problems with the V6's makes a DTi look a safe bet doesnt it???  

[Stoph]

Having never owned a TD i can't comment on them. I have a DTi & it's good, very good. I like the low down torque they deliver & it's a very good town driver, infact it's a good all rounder
I've had mine remapped & i haven't found a 2.2 petrol that can keep up yet

thanks Pete... 525 is awful round town as its so slow to pick up under 2000rpm and the gearing is so high... however 80 on the motorway is incredibly relaxed... unfortunately with teh amount of traffic on the road these days steady cruising dont happen often....
Who did  the tweaks on the DTi for you and what would I be looking at cost wise?? guessing its about 25% more bhp and torque if its similar to the ads have been looking at...
Chris

[Martin_1962]

V6 on LPG

Still a possible but looking at all the problems with the V6's makes a DTi look a safe bet doesnt it???  

Only problem with mine is valve seals and worn thermostat

[Turk]

Mine suits me fine, particularly now it's been chipped by the lads on here.

In un-chipped form, they're 130 BHP, and performance is disappointing. Apparently, the chip sends it back to BMW spec of 163 BHP. It's now very good, suits us fine, and locally attains a proven 33 mpg. When towing our 22' caravan, I find that it's slightly lack-lustre in the lower rev range, but kept 'on song' it'll pull like a train. I've modified my driving technique to largely overcome this.

Standard BMW output is 143 BHP

In the 3 series yes, but in the 5 series it was 163bhp

Have to disagree with you Platty... the early 525TDSas fitted in e34 and e39 5 series  is 143bhp, its the later 2001 onwards common rail jobbie thats 163..
Thanks for the comments so far, I think I will find the good in whatever car comes along in the right condition at the right price, I do like low down torque but take on board the possible reliability issues with the dti.... hoping this is only on the poorly serviced ones... Will see if I can get a drive in both over next couple of weeks and see where I go from there... chipping the td for £70 sounds good if I go that way... who do I talk to about that??
Nice busy sight this... plenty to keep me away from work

Cheers

Chris

I thought so too !  Mine should be delivered Monday. I'll post up what I think of it.    

[waspy]

Having never owned a TD i can't comment on them. I have a DTi & it's good, very good. I like the low down torque they deliver & it's a very good town driver, infact it's a good all rounder
I've had mine remapped & i haven't found a 2.2 petrol that can keep up yet

thanks Pete... 525 is awful round town as its so slow to pick up under 2000rpm and the gearing is so high... however 80 on the motorway is incredibly relaxed... unfortunately with teh amount of traffic on the road these days steady cruising dont happen often....
Who did  the tweaks on the DTi for you and what would I be looking at cost wise?? guessing its about 25% more bhp and torque if its similar to the ads have been looking at...
Chris

Where's your location?

http://www.zen19051.zen.co.uk/ This guy. He's very good

[Marks DTM Calib]

I would have the 2.2 4 pot over the 6 cylinder over rated BMW lump everyday of the week

[Stoph]

Having never owned a TD i can't comment on them. I have a DTi & it's good, very good. I like the low down torque they deliver & it's a very good town driver, infact it's a good all rounder
I've had mine remapped & i haven't found a 2.2 petrol that can keep up yet

thanks Pete... 525 is awful round town as its so slow to pick up under 2000rpm and the gearing is so high... however 80 on the motorway is incredibly relaxed... unfortunately with teh amount of traffic on the road these days steady cruising dont happen often....
Who did  the tweaks on the DTi for you and what would I be looking at cost wise?? guessing its about 25% more bhp and torque if its similar to the ads have been looking at...
Chris

Where's your location?

http://www.zen19051.zen.co.uk/ This guy. He's very good

Thanks Pete....... Asbourne only about 30 miles...

[golden_delicious]

Bit of a late comment but our experience of 2.2dti contradicts most of the comments made on here.ours has been outstanding apart from a couple of electrical/sensor issues although i must add it did die quite abrubtly @ 401k when the timing chain broke (really should be a service item along with the bottom pulley which seems to last 130-160k). :-/
Our 'newer' engine has been in for 8k now so far only needing a new crank sensor

[Grrrrrr]

Oddly enough the bloke living behind me has the newer 2.2 Signum and his injection pump failed the other day. Never had it on a Vauxhall before but the garage says it happens quite a lot on the newer Vauxhalls.

I'd go for the older one. Someone on here might be able to advise if it can handle home-grown biodeisel or not!

[Marks DTM Calib]

Oddly enough the bloke living behind me has the newer 2.2 Signum and his injection pump failed the other day. Never had it on a Vauxhall before but the garage says it happens quite a lot on the newer Vauxhalls.

I'd go for the older one. Someone on here might be able to advise if it can handle home-grown biodeisel or not!

Injection failure is directly attributable to servicing.....90% of the time they fail due to the fuel filter not being changed and drained of water and this happens on all manufacturers cars

[TheBoy]

Oddly enough the bloke living behind me has the newer 2.2 Signum and his injection pump failed the other day. Never had it on a Vauxhall before but the garage says it happens quite a lot on the newer Vauxhalls.

I'd go for the older one. Someone on here might be able to advise if it can handle home-grown biodeisel or not!

Injection failure is directly attributable to servicing.....90% of the time they fail due to the fuel filter not being changed and drained of water and this happens on all manufacturers cars

I suspect its a pretty standard injection pump anyway, not GM specific.  That said, I've heard of a couple of cases of this now, so is certainly something to bear in mind, whether caused by poor components, or GM's daft service schedule....

[Stoph]

Bit of a late comment but our experience of 2.2dti contradicts most of the comments made on here.ours has been outstanding apart from a couple of electrical/sensor issues although i must add it did die quite abrubtly @ 401k when the timing chain broke (really should be a service item along with the bottom pulley which seems to last 130-160k). :-/
Our 'newer' engine has been in for 8k now so far only needing a new crank sensor

I think if I had run an engine to 401k without major problems I would have had my moneys worth!! So the answer so far is.... no idea! Several votes more for the old BMW lump but a few very positive comments on what the DTi drives like with most of the issues down to servicing(or lack of) Looks like I'm gonn ahave to make time to go drive some and see how they feel
Thanks for all the input, will let you know how the test drives go...
Chris  

[omegaman2]

my2.2dti pulls the caravan wiyh ease
recent run from wales back to scotland 36mpg till i hit side winds then 32mpg for the last 150 miles
very powerfull