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Re: 2.5td injector issue ?
« Reply #45 on: 20 May 2009, 19:48:59 »
 :o :o :o The injector came out with ease. No cracking, no long extention bar. No force at all. This is from a motor that has been idle for 18 months and has done 225k miles.
Either I have been very lucky (for a change) or Silkolene Silkopen is a superb penetrating/releasing fluid.  
Had to grind my brand new Sealey injector socket to get it to go down into the recess. Tapping it on with a hammer just wasn't working.
Got a foot long power bar and was prepared to raise a sweat. As I started to apply a little pressure to take up any slack before the big push...the injector turned and unscrewed...easy as can be.  
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Re: 2.5td injector issue ?
« Reply #46 on: 20 May 2009, 20:06:49 »
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:o :o :o The injector came out with ease. No cracking, no long extention bar. No force at all. This is from a motor that has been idle for 18 months and has done 225k miles.
Either I have been very lucky (for a change) or Silkolene Silkopen is a superb penetrating/releasing fluid.  
Had to grind my brand new Sealey injector socket to get it to go down into the recess. Tapping it on with a hammer just wasn't working.
Got a foot long power bar and was prepared to raise a sweat. As I started to apply a little pressure to take up any slack before the big push...the injector turned and unscrewed...easy as can be.  

great news!! but does it run any better now????????? :o
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Re: 2.5td injector issue ?
« Reply #47 on: 21 May 2009, 19:47:12 »
Not yet, I just removed the injector from my spare engine. Had 2 hours to do the job, which would have been ample time, but I had a Full Geometry appointment and didn't want to risk missing it due to something not going to plan.
I also have to re-solder the injector wires as they were severed when I trapped them between the inlet manifold and the ports whilst changing Glo-Plugs. I used brass screw connectors as a temporay fix (well, 20k miles ago) but I'll do a proper job this time.
Still amazed how easily the injector came off. You'd think I'd just fitted it 2 mins earlier. It's either luck, or Silkopen is an excellent penetrating/releasing fluid.
Will probably do the swap on Saturday afternoon.
  
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Re: 2.5td injector issue ?
« Reply #48 on: 21 May 2009, 20:01:30 »
Hmm, in theory a repaired wire will not affect it but in practice it does!!
mrs omegatoys had a repaired pietzo injector on it from a small accident sometime in its life and although 90pecent of the time it was ok it still threw up random code 64 every now and then, this was only
fully cured by replacing it with an undamaged one, as the boy will no doubt confirm, as it was him that kept clearing the code when the light came on!! :y
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Re: 2.5td injector issue ?
« Reply #49 on: 21 May 2009, 21:07:12 »
Interesting !  Mind you, I ran it for about 20k miles with the temporary repair.
It's worth a try, only cost will be a few hours work. If it's still faulty but with different symptoms, at least I'll know it's the sensor injector that is causing the uneven idle and the judder when the full power chip was fitted.
Don't mind spending money on a new injector if I know it is going to sort out my issues.  :y

How are codes cleared ? I thought they self deleted either when the fault had been rectified or within a few engine start/stops.
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Re: 2.5td injector issue ?
« Reply #50 on: 21 May 2009, 21:13:57 »
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Interesting !  Mind you, I ran it for about 20k miles with the temporary repair.
It's worth a try, only cost will be a few hours work. If it's still faulty but with different symptoms, at least I'll know it's the sensor injector that is causing the uneven idle and the judder when the full power chip was fitted.
Don't mind spending money on a new injector if I know it is going to sort out my issues.  :y

How are codes cleared ? I thought they self deleted either when the fault had been rectified or within a few engine start/stops.

I'm sure that you'll need a Tech2 to 'clean-out' the memory.
 
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Re: 2.5td injector issue ?
« Reply #51 on: 21 May 2009, 21:35:21 »
Dunno, but since cleaning the EGR, 96 has gone, then re-appeared and has now been gone for a few days. It's currently alternating between 82 (Injector) by itself or together with 64 (Nooo...please, not that one !!!)
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Re: 2.5td injector issue ?
« Reply #52 on: 21 May 2009, 22:15:54 »
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Dunno, but since cleaning the EGR, 96 has gone, then re-appeared and has now been gone for a few days. It's currently alternating between 82 (Injector) by itself or together with 64 (Nooo...please, not that one !!!)

Like your good self sir, I'd be inclined to change that No4 jobbie, and see what occurs.

Let's keep our fingers crossed on Saturday for you buddy!
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Re: 2.5td injector issue ?
« Reply #53 on: 21 May 2009, 22:32:22 »
Fingers, toes...and anything else I can cross.  ;D
I'll be a lump of hell if it's a pump issue.

Reasonably optimistic it's the sensor. Warm starting is ok(ish) at about 3 seconds of cranking. Cold start takes about 10 seconds.
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