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Exhaust Manifold Gasket
« on: 04 May 2010, 09:19:50 »

Morning all  :)
Have posted a few times about my facelift 2.5 elite with a misfire.
Just to re-cap -:
NOTHING showing on paper clip test or Tech 2
Coil pack replaced
Cam shaft sensor replaced (mechanic said fault code shown on tech 2 BUT didn't realise that the engine had to be running for it to clear!)
New spark plugs replaced
New HT Leads replaced (correctly fitted onto coil pack & no leads loose)
New fuel filter fitted
Compression test done y/day but nothing found!
Have now been advised that it could well be that the Exhaust Manifold Gasket could be the problem OR injectors (although 2 lots of cleaner where put in a couple of months ago when the problem first happened).
The exhaust does sound as if its blowing & i just wanted to ask anyone out there if they think that this could well be the cause of the bad misfire & if so is it an expensive job to do (i know the gaskets are only a few quid on ebay) labour wise?
I'm at the end of my tether with this & it's cost me a small fortune up to know which has completely made me skint!! :'(
PLEASE HELP!!!! :( :( :(
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Re: Exhaust Manifold Gasket
« Reply #1 on: 04 May 2010, 09:22:42 »

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Morning all  :)
Have posted a few times about my facelift 2.5 elite with a misfire.
Just to re-cap -:
NOTHING showing on paper clip test or Tech 2
Coil pack replaced
Cam shaft sensor replaced (mechanic said fault code shown on tech 2 BUT didn't realise that the engine had to be running for it to clear!)
New spark plugs replaced
New HT Leads replaced (correctly fitted onto coil pack & no leads loose)
New fuel filter fitted
Compression test done y/day but nothing found!
Have now been advised that it could well be that the Exhaust Manifold Gasket could be the problem OR injectors (although 2 lots of cleaner where put in a couple of months ago when the problem first happened).
The exhaust does sound as if its blowing & i just wanted to ask anyone out there if they think that this could well be the cause of the bad misfire & if so is it an expensive job to do (i know the gaskets are only a few quid on ebay) labour wise?
I'm at the end of my tether with this & it's cost me a small fortune up to know which has completely made me skint!! :'(
PLEASE HELP!!!! :( :( :(
Don't get the cheap Ebay ones, only use the multi layer genuine Vauxhall ones from a dealer ;)
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Re: Exhaust Manifold Gasket
« Reply #2 on: 04 May 2010, 09:47:07 »

Cheers for the message Pete & the quote
All i can say is J-E-S-U-S didn't realise it was so expensive  :'( :'( :'(!!!!
Could the misfire be caused by the Exhaust Manifold Gasket leaking???
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Re: Exhaust Manifold Gasket
« Reply #3 on: 04 May 2010, 09:55:39 »

Also had quite a random missfire when starting the car when it was still hot , turned out to be the MAF sensor as soon as I unplugged it the car ran fine
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Re: Exhaust Manifold Gasket
« Reply #4 on: 04 May 2010, 10:00:00 »

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Cheers for the message Pete & the quote
All i can say is J-E-S-U-S didn't realise it was so expensive  :'( :'( :'(!!!!
Could the misfire be caused by the Exhaust Manifold Gasket leaking???

I would say no and given what your mechanics has changed....its time for a new mechanic!
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« Reply #5 on: 04 May 2010, 10:27:38 »

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Cheers for the message Pete & the quote
All i can say is J-E-S-U-S didn't realise it was so expensive  :'( :'( :'(!!!!
Could the misfire be caused by the Exhaust Manifold Gasket leaking???

I would say no and given what your mechanics has changed....its time for a new mechanic!
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Trouble is i have a car that's misfiring & 3 different people don't know what the problem is & can only guess what it might be - plugs? renewed, ht leads? renewed, compression test? done, fuel filter? done, loose lead on coil pack? nope, paper clip test? done with nothing showing & the list goes on!!!
If it is the Exhaust Manifold Gasket then at an estimated £170 i'm f**ked cos not got a pot to p**s in!!!!
Maybe some-one on this site has had the same problem & could give me advise as i'm not mechanically minded  :-[
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« Reply #6 on: 04 May 2010, 10:30:18 »

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Also had quite a random missfire when starting the car when it was still hot , turned out to be the MAF sensor as soon as I unplugged it the car ran fine
My misfire is there all the time as soon as i accelerate  :'(
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Re: Exhaust Manifold Gasket
« Reply #7 on: 04 May 2010, 10:31:11 »

You say the cam sensor was replaced (strange), do you mean the crank sensor?
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« Reply #8 on: 04 May 2010, 11:08:10 »

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Also had quite a random missfire when starting the car when it was still hot , turned out to be the MAF sensor as soon as I unplugged it the car ran fine
My misfire is there all the time as soon as i accelerate  :'(

Mine had the missfire/stuttering from 1800-2700 rpm also with no eml light or codes stored . Just unplug it and go for a test drive .
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« Reply #9 on: 04 May 2010, 11:10:16 »

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You say the cam sensor was replaced (strange), do you mean the crank sensor?
Sorry ur dead right i mean the crank sensor code 31  :-[
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« Reply #10 on: 04 May 2010, 11:11:01 »

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You say the cam sensor was replaced (strange), do you mean the crank sensor?
Sorry you are dead right i mean the crank sensor code 31  :-[

Code 31 is normal when the engine is not running, code 19 indicates crank sensor failure.

Hope you did not replace it based on 31 code!
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« Reply #11 on: 04 May 2010, 11:12:39 »

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Also had quite a random missfire when starting the car when it was still hot , turned out to be the MAF sensor as soon as I unplugged it the car ran fine
My misfire is there all the time as soon as i accelerate  :'(

Mine had the missfire/stuttering from 1800-2700 rpm also with no eml light or codes stored . Just unplug it and go for a test drive .
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How do i do that?
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« Reply #12 on: 04 May 2010, 11:16:19 »

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You say the cam sensor was replaced (strange), do you mean the crank sensor?
Sorry you are dead right i mean the crank sensor code 31  :-[

Code 31 is normal when the engine is not running, code 19 indicates crank sensor failure.

Hope you did not replace it based on 31 code!
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YES!!!! My mechanic replaced it  :-? not knowing that on the tech 2 test code 31 shows untill the engine is fired up - when i told him he didn't charge me for his embarrasment  ;D
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« Reply #13 on: 04 May 2010, 11:17:11 »

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Also had quite a random missfire when starting the car when it was still hot , turned out to be the MAF sensor as soon as I unplugged it the car ran fine
My misfire is there all the time as soon as i accelerate  :'(

Mine had the missfire/stuttering from 1800-2700 rpm also with no eml light or codes stored . Just unplug it and go for a test drive .
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How do i do that?

Unplug MAF sensor :)
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« Reply #14 on: 04 May 2010, 11:17:30 »

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You say the cam sensor was replaced (strange), do you mean the crank sensor?
Sorry you are dead right i mean the crank sensor code 31  :-[

Code 31 is normal when the engine is not running, code 19 indicates crank sensor failure.

Hope you did not replace it based on 31 code!
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YES!!!! My mechanic replaced it  :-? not knowing that on the tech 2 test code 31 shows untill the engine is fired up - when i told him he didn't charge me for his embarrasment  ;D

I would change your mechanic  :y
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