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Re: A very poorly Elite.
« Reply #105 on: 20 May 2010, 07:50:13 »

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mystery solved.... :y

hole caused by heat, caused by misfire?

Probably, with the unburnt fuel... I reckon it's been going for a while, and just finally let go on the trip home...

I don't suppose there was supposed to be a heat shield between the exhaust and tank? I'm struggling to imagine how hot the exhaust must have got. :-/

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There was a heat shield. It was around one of the heatshield bolt areas on the tank that the hold is ;D

I agree Kev, seems unlikely - but what else! It's visibly melted, rather than split...  :-/
HAV E seen this twice before!! on one it was a split along the sea,m of the rear box the other was a rust hole, hot gases from the split/hole had very gently over time melted the fuel tank!!!

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« Reply #106 on: 20 May 2010, 08:48:33 »

I managed to melt the outside of a hi-viz jacket in the boot of the jag with the same issue - exhaust from a holed back-box directly heating the floor.

have killed a few cats in my time, mainly on prototype and test vehicles. I distinctly remember causing a huge tailback on the M25 after melting four cats in a Lamborghini. Got billed for re-surfacing, too.
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Re: A very poorly Elite.
« Reply #107 on: 20 May 2010, 09:41:09 »

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mystery solved.... :y

hole caused by heat, caused by misfire?

Probably, with the unburnt fuel... I reckon it's been going for a while, and just finally let go on the trip home...

I don't suppose there was supposed to be a heat shield between the exhaust and tank? I'm struggling to imagine how hot the exhaust must have got. :-/

Kevin

There was a heat shield. It was around one of the heatshield bolt areas on the tank that the hold is ;D

I agree Kev, seems unlikely - but what else! It's visibly melted, rather than split...  :-/
HAV E seen this twice before!! on one it was a split along the sea,m of the rear box the other was a rust hole, hot gases from the split/hole had very gently over time melted the fuel tank!!!

Bingo!!! There IS a split in the backbox, directly facing the fuel tank!!!  :y

New exhaust on order...  :y
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Re: A very poorly Elite.
« Reply #108 on: 20 May 2010, 09:50:50 »

Hi James, congratulations not only on solving your problem(s), but for escaping what surely could have been a fiery disaster! It would probably be difficult to claim much against the seller, as the tank hole may have only occurred on your drive South.

Best of luck with the reconstruction, and full marks to all the expert advice on here.

Chris :y :y :y
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Re: A very poorly Elite.
« Reply #109 on: 20 May 2010, 10:10:50 »

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Hi James, congratulations not only on solving your problem(s), but for escaping what surely could have been a fiery disaster! It would probably be difficult to claim much against the seller, as the tank hole may have only occurred on your drive South.

Best of luck with the reconstruction, and full marks to all the expert advice on here.

Chris :y :y :y

Amen to that. That explains where all that fuel vapour came from when you filled up. Boiling petrol. :o One spark away from something rather nasty.

Anyway,  given that the fuel tank is now U/S this makes this estate the ideal test bed for fitting a reduced size petrol tank, chopping out the spare wheel well and fitting a huge underslung LPG tank.  ;)

At least with 8 BAR of pressure in the fuel tank it's less easy to drive around oblivious to a hole in the tank. ;)

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Re: A very poorly Elite.
« Reply #110 on: 20 May 2010, 10:18:42 »

I was looking at this last night... and I was thinking the LPG tank would be too close to the exhaust for comfort, if it was slung under the boot floor.....  :-/
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Re: A very poorly Elite.
« Reply #111 on: 20 May 2010, 10:22:20 »

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Hi James, congratulations not only on solving your problem(s), but for escaping what surely could have been a fiery disaster! It would probably be difficult to claim much against the seller, as the tank hole may have only occurred on your drive South.

Best of luck with the reconstruction, and full marks to all the expert advice on here.

Chris :y :y :y

Amen to that. That explains where all that fuel vapour came from when you filled up. Boiling petrol. :o One spark away from something rather nasty.

Anyway,  given that the fuel tank is now U/S this makes this estate the ideal test bed for fitting a reduced size petrol tank, chopping out the spare wheel well and fitting a huge underslung LPG tank.  ;)

At least with 8 BAR of pressure in the fuel tank it's less easy to drive around oblivious to a hole in the tank. ;)

Kevin

I liked my old Jag and Daimler, they had a 10 gallon tank on each side of the car, also would be ideal for trying 2 types of petrol at the same time and same road/weather conditions if they were fitted to a miggy.
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Re: A very poorly Elite.
« Reply #112 on: 20 May 2010, 10:24:22 »

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I was looking at this last night... and I was thinking the LPG tank would be too close to the exhaust for comfort, if it was slung under the boot floor.....  :-/

Would it fit under the boot floor, and being nearer a heat sourse with a presurised tank is that really a good idea.
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Re: A very poorly Elite.
« Reply #113 on: 20 May 2010, 10:24:59 »

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I was looking at this last night... and I was thinking the LPG tank would be too close to the exhaust for comfort, if it was slung under the boot floor.....  :-/

It would, no doubt need to be protected from the heat with a shield.

Another option. Cut out the wheel well and extend it deeper so tank is still enclosed in the wheel well.

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Re: A very poorly Elite.
« Reply #114 on: 20 May 2010, 11:45:34 »

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'Kin Ell James........four wheel grenade??

PO MUST have known all about this.........??
Seems I was closer to the truth than I thought.............
The P.O. must be told........surely that was just plain dangerous, selling it in that state??

maybe there is a law against selling a car that potentially could explode??

Glad you are over the worst, James.
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Re: A very poorly Elite.
« Reply #115 on: 20 May 2010, 11:51:11 »

I haven't read right through yet but the story reminds me of when I bought a 2.5 Elite estate off eBay, located in Staines, 320 miles away. The vendor assured me that the car would drive to Penzance. Well, when I arrived to pick the car up, it was running on 4, maybe 5 cylinders. I was furious. Had I not been so mild-mannered I could have socked the guy. I tried a mad gamble to drive back but it couldn't even stutter to the M4, never mind Penzance. I took the train back (3 changes) and arranged for a recovery guy to pick the car up. Cost me £700 overall. I suppose I should have left it there and demanded my money back. One day I might get my money back in spare parts....

How people can be such barefaced liars is beyond me. 

On the upside most of my other eBay purchases have turned out just fine, so I remain the eternal optimist and just regard it as the one of risks of the trade I'm in. ::)
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« Reply #116 on: 20 May 2010, 12:38:32 »

I think alot of Ebayers rely on the fact you have travelled a long way to collect the car so your not going to walk away. I got the train to Measteg to be met at the train station the seller driving my new purchase. It was a glorious sunny day and the bloke had the heater on full blast and the window down. When I got in to drive off and turned the heater off the temp gauge started to rise so I had to drive home with the heater on >:(

Still car turned out fine once I had flushed the rad, turns out the oil cooler had let go which he'd had replaced but not flushed the cooling system well enough :)
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« Reply #117 on: 20 May 2010, 12:53:37 »

Im glad it all got sorted in the end, :) BUT i am going to miss my daily episode of "a very poorly Elite"  :'(
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Re: A very poorly Elite.
« Reply #118 on: 20 May 2010, 12:59:19 »

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Im glad it all got sorted in the end, :) BUT i am going to miss my daily episode of "a very poorly Elite"  :'(

Oh I've no doubt there is more to come!!  ;D

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Re: A very poorly Elite.
« Reply #119 on: 20 May 2010, 13:52:20 »

Just caught up with this thread.

I should be preparing to lay a patio not sitting here reading about problem Omegas.

Glad it's sorted though, good read and resolution :y

Mick ;)
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