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[TheBoy]

Also, TB -

A broken idler wouldn't cause that to happen, in itself -

The cam pulley would have to be physically taken off and re-fitted in that keyway position (unless the keyway on the cam has broken)...

My gut feeling is top end damage!

Has something else broken, and broken tensioner is a symptom, not a cause...

[CyNick]

Can you moved to TDC, and retake?

I may be having a blonde moment, but 1 looks to be way out of sync with 2?

I've just taken the photos as I found things.. How do I move to TDC with the tensioner bolt broken?

[JamesV6CDX]

Also, TB -

A broken idler wouldn't cause that to happen, in itself -

The cam pulley would have to be physically taken off and re-fitted in that keyway position (unless the keyway on the cam has broken)...

My gut feeling is top end damage!

Or the belt has slipped and it just so happens that's the orientation they ended up in?

Kevin

Yep - bit of a co-incidence they've ended up in the same place though 

[Kevin Wood]

Yep - bit of a co-incidence they've ended up in the same place though 

Looking at the state of that tensioner it would have been a bit of a coincidence if they had stayed timed as they originally were too.

Kevin

[JamesV6CDX]

Yep - Agreed

I'd love to know how the garage re-fitted the cambelt kit...

[TheBoy]

Yep - Agreed

I'd love to know how the garage re-fitted the cambelt kit...

Visions of the old film, see no evil, hear no evil...

[JamesV6CDX]

Nick - to give us an indication - assuming the lower idler hasn't been touched since this failure - can you clarify what position the arrow on it, is in?

[pscocoa]

we are definitely into the land of long shots here.

My job went wrong in October 2008 - VX dealer was involved with metallurgist regarding the bolt - I am not aware of outcome. When was your job done/kit purchased? May just be a coincidence on timing - will check with dealer re metallurgist but do not hold your breath.

[pscocoa]

checked with dealer - basically in my case VX Luton sent their own engineer to agree to disagree but accepted to supply engine without admission of liabilty.

VX dealer says that others have gone to AA or RAC for opinion on cause and submitted to VX but this is obviously a gamble for you on cost of report given it was fitted so long  ago.

[CyNick]

Nick - to give us an indication - assuming the lower idler hasn't been touched since this failure - can you clarify what position the arrow on it, is in?

The arrow is now at aprox 10/20 degrees clockwise from vertical (and the bearing is free running)

[TheBoy]

Nick - to give us an indication - assuming the lower idler hasn't been touched since this failure - can you clarify what position the arrow on it, is in?

The arrow is now at aprox 10/20 degrees clockwise from vertical (and the bearing is free running)

Hmmm, that doesn't sound like its been fitted properly  :-/

[JamesV6CDX]

Nick - to give us an indication - assuming the lower idler hasn't been touched since this failure - can you clarify what position the arrow on it, is in?

The arrow is now at aprox 10/20 degrees clockwise from vertical (and the bearing is free running)

Hmmm, that doesn't sound like its been fitted properly  :-/

I read it that it's been fitted in around the 1pm position, which wouldn't be far off the mark?

[TheBoy]

Nick - to give us an indication - assuming the lower idler hasn't been touched since this failure - can you clarify what position the arrow on it, is in?

The arrow is now at aprox 10/20 degrees clockwise from vertical (and the bearing is free running)

Hmmm, that doesn't sound like its been fitted properly  :-/

I read it that it's been fitted in around the 1pm position, which wouldn't be far off the mark?

how did i read anticlockwise into that. 1pm would sound nearer, but wonder if not locking kit used?

[JamesV6CDX]

Nick - to give us an indication - assuming the lower idler hasn't been touched since this failure - can you clarify what position the arrow on it, is in?

The arrow is now at aprox 10/20 degrees clockwise from vertical (and the bearing is free running)

Hmmm, that doesn't sound like its been fitted properly  :-/

I read it that it's been fitted in around the 1pm position, which wouldn't be far off the mark?

how did i read anticlockwise into that. 1pm would sound nearer, but wonder if not locking kit used?

Quite likely not used. Not many outfits have them - and the ones that do, probably not 100% competent on how to use them   

[Marks DTM Calib]

There a mile out....cam 1 and 2 are sat in the same positions so are a good 120 deg out!