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[Grumpy]

Steady on chaps. You can't go condemning a whole nation because
of the actions of a few.

What if America judged all of us by the actions of our politicians etc..?

The problem nowadays, is that everything is dumbed down to 'Tick the
Box' forms and procedures. Thinking for yourself or the use of discretion
 is being squeezed out of society.

What's probably happened, is that procedures have been set in place
to protect children who may be vulnerable. The two girls have probably
been sucked into the system and someone has followed the laid down
procedures to the letter. If they hadn't, and this had been a genuine
case of vulnerable children who had been abused, they would have
been hauled over the coals, fired, and we would have been castigating
them for failing to look after British kids when they needed help and
protection.

I know how you feel, I often feel the same, but how much are we,
all the little guys, to blame, for allowing bureaucrats, politicians and
jobsworths to ride roughshod all over us, without so much as peep
to stand up for ourselves.
As other folk have said, the French don't stand for it. Perhaps the
Brits and Yanks should take a leaf out of their books?

Who was it that said something along the lines of, that for evil
to triumph all that needs to happen is for good men to do nothing?
I think it may have been a US President??

I think that apathy seems to be quite rife in UK and USA these days.  

[stuart30]

Ive gotta say this story sounds a bit over the top...not saying it didnt happen but isnt strip searching the girls over the top for the yanks.

Id bet a penny to a pound theres more too this story than is being told by the papers/those involved. :-/

[albitz]

i think we are all apathetic becuase the general public are now totally disenfranchised.our leaders are completely disinterested in their electorate unless there is an impending election. they arent interested in democracy,just convincing enough people to tick the right box to get them into power,and i think the general public know this so more of us vote in the x factor final than in a general election.the whole thing is a complete con but if people try to challenge any aspect of it(from the fuel protesters to dr. david kelly) the system comes down them like a ton of bricks.i think stalin would quite admire the leadership of the"free" western "democracys" these days. rant over! i feel a little better now

[zippo]

i think we are all apathetic becuase the general public are now totally disenfranchised.our leaders are completely disinterested in their electorate unless there is an impending election. they arent interested in democracy,just convincing enough people to tick the right box to get them into power,and i think the general public know this so more of us vote in the x factor final than in a general election.the whole thing is a complete con but if people try to challenge any aspect of it(from the fuel protesters to dr. david kelly) the system comes down them like a ton of bricks.i think stalin would quite admire the leadership of the"free" western "democracys" these days. rant over! i feel a little better now

well said that man [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Edmund Burke i think said the all it takes  etc.......
or similar to it anyway

[Nickbat]

Steady on chaps. You can't go condemning a whole nation because
of the actions of a few.

What if America judged all of us by the actions of our politicians etc..?

The problem nowadays, is that everything is dumbed down to 'Tick the
Box' forms and procedures. Thinking for yourself or the use of discretion
 is being squeezed out of society.

What's probably happened, is that procedures have been set in place
to protect children who may be vulnerable. The two girls have probably
been sucked into the system and someone has followed the laid down
procedures to the letter. If they hadn't, and this had been a genuine
case of vulnerable children who had been abused, they would have
been hauled over the coals, fired, and we would have been castigating
them for failing to look after British kids when they needed help and
protection.

I know how you feel, I often feel the same, but how much are we,
all the little guys, to blame, for allowing bureaucrats, politicians and
jobsworths to ride roughshod all over us, without so much as peep
to stand up for ourselves.
As other folk have said, the French don't stand for it. Perhaps the
Brits and Yanks should take a leaf out of their books?

Who was it that said something along the lines of, that for evil
to triumph all that needs to happen is for good men to do nothing?
I think it may have been a US President??

I think that apathy seems to be quite rife in UK and USA these days.  

Grumpy's absolutely right and I find it hard to understand some of the comments in this thread. For those of you who have short memories, what about the kids who were forcibly taken from their parents in the Orkneys in 1990s?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/5272092.stm

The blame lies in the PC madness at a local authority level. In that respect, the US and British societies (and perhaps a few others) are very similar. It's got nothing to do with the countries themselves.  

[cem_devecioglu]

The problem is generally the laws and rules are written by the lazy burocrats that hardly fits in their chairs with sleepy eyes  

And one idiot who dont have self logic possibly followed the written garbage to the last comma as said