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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #15 on: 28 February 2008, 12:13:17 »

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This is what I think you'll need, based on my testing:

CCRT700 - tech'2 for right config (Bose or Non Bose)
CCRT700 Display (not same as GID, MID, CID or TID)
CDC2 for CCRT700 (different to CDC2 for CCR600/800)
Amp and speakers for Bose (speakers are different to std), and shelf.
If car prewired for phone, connection from CCRT700 to drivers kick panel.  If not prewired, and cellular aerial.
If Bose - a Bose drivers kick panel to amp loom FOR CCRT700.  If non Bose - a non Bose drivers kick panel to CDC2 loom FOR CCRT700
Courtesy light FOR CCRT700

Even with all this, you'll still have to frig the wiring from radio to display, and radio to drivers kick panel.


Even after you've done that, I haven't worked out how to get a CAN based speed signal to CCRT700 - you older CCR600 had a pulse based signal.

I thought the display provided the speed signal over the CAN interface between the display and CCRT.
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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #16 on: 28 February 2008, 18:14:01 »

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This is what I think you'll need, based on my testing:

CCRT700 - tech'2 for right config (Bose or Non Bose)
CCRT700 Display (not same as GID, MID, CID or TID)
CDC2 for CCRT700 (different to CDC2 for CCR600/800)
Amp and speakers for Bose (speakers are different to std), and shelf.
If car prewired for phone, connection from CCRT700 to drivers kick panel.  If not prewired, and cellular aerial.
If Bose - a Bose drivers kick panel to amp loom FOR CCRT700.  If non Bose - a non Bose drivers kick panel to CDC2 loom FOR CCRT700
Courtesy light FOR CCRT700

Even with all this, you'll still have to frig the wiring from radio to display, and radio to drivers kick panel.


Even after you've done that, I haven't worked out how to get a CAN based speed signal to CCRT700 - you older CCR600 had a pulse based signal.

I thought the display provided the speed signal over the CAN interface between the display and CCRT.
Thanks, I'll try and look in to that.

Now if I had the schematics from a 1999 car, that would be a huge help (currently kludging together from 1998 (Haynes) and 2002 (TIS), neither cover CCRT700)
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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #17 on: 29 February 2008, 13:56:42 »

is the ccrt700 display coded???? or is this a myth i need one but i dont have  part number for one!!!
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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #18 on: 29 February 2008, 14:47:40 »

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This is what I think you'll need, based on my testing:

CCRT700 - tech'2 for right config (Bose or Non Bose)
CCRT700 Display (not same as GID, MID, CID or TID)
CDC2 for CCRT700 (different to CDC2 for CCR600/800)
Amp and speakers for Bose (speakers are different to std), and shelf.
If car prewired for phone, connection from CCRT700 to drivers kick panel.  If not prewired, and cellular aerial.
If Bose - a Bose drivers kick panel to amp loom FOR CCRT700.  If non Bose - a non Bose drivers kick panel to CDC2 loom FOR CCRT700
Courtesy light FOR CCRT700

Even with all this, you'll still have to frig the wiring from radio to display, and radio to drivers kick panel.


Even after you've done that, I haven't worked out how to get a CAN based speed signal to CCRT700 - you older CCR600 had a pulse based signal.

I thought the display provided the speed signal over the CAN interface between the display and CCRT.
Thanks, I'll try and look in to that.

Now if I had the schematics from a 1999 car, that would be a huge help (currently kludging together from 1998 (Haynes) and 2002 (TIS), neither cover CCRT700)

Astra-G, 2002.....CCRT700 was still being used and the display, although a different shape, is a similar animal.
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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #19 on: 29 February 2008, 15:15:12 »

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This is what I think you'll need, based on my testing:

CCRT700 - tech'2 for right config (Bose or Non Bose)
CCRT700 Display (not same as GID, MID, CID or TID)
CDC2 for CCRT700 (different to CDC2 for CCR600/800)
Amp and speakers for Bose (speakers are different to std), and shelf.
If car prewired for phone, connection from CCRT700 to drivers kick panel.  If not prewired, and cellular aerial.
If Bose - a Bose drivers kick panel to amp loom FOR CCRT700.  If non Bose - a non Bose drivers kick panel to CDC2 loom FOR CCRT700
Courtesy light FOR CCRT700

Even with all this, you'll still have to frig the wiring from radio to display, and radio to drivers kick panel.


Even after you've done that, I haven't worked out how to get a CAN based speed signal to CCRT700 - you older CCR600 had a pulse based signal.

I thought the display provided the speed signal over the CAN interface between the display and CCRT.
Thanks, I'll try and look in to that.

Now if I had the schematics from a 1999 car, that would be a huge help (currently kludging together from 1998 (Haynes) and 2002 (TIS), neither cover CCRT700)

Astra-G, 2002.....CCRT700 was still being used and the display, although a different shape, is a similar animal.
Thanks very much, that will make my life so much easier! :y :y :y
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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #20 on: 29 February 2008, 15:17:05 »

how are you getting on with that ccrt700 loom jaime :y
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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #21 on: 29 February 2008, 15:43:05 »

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how are you getting on with that ccrt700 loom jaime :y
Still fighting :y - it is helping enormously :y :y
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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #22 on: 29 February 2008, 16:02:16 »

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This is what I think you'll need, based on my testing:

CCRT700 - tech'2 for right config (Bose or Non Bose)
CCRT700 Display (not same as GID, MID, CID or TID)
CDC2 for CCRT700 (different to CDC2 for CCR600/800)
Amp and speakers for Bose (speakers are different to std), and shelf.
If car prewired for phone, connection from CCRT700 to drivers kick panel.  If not prewired, and cellular aerial.
If Bose - a Bose drivers kick panel to amp loom FOR CCRT700.  If non Bose - a non Bose drivers kick panel to CDC2 loom FOR CCRT700
Courtesy light FOR CCRT700

Even with all this, you'll still have to frig the wiring from radio to display, and radio to drivers kick panel.


Even after you've done that, I haven't worked out how to get a CAN based speed signal to CCRT700 - you older CCR600 had a pulse based signal.

I thought the display provided the speed signal over the CAN interface between the display and CCRT.
Thanks, I'll try and look in to that.

Now if I had the schematics from a 1999 car, that would be a huge help (currently kludging together from 1998 (Haynes) and 2002 (TIS), neither cover CCRT700)

Astra-G, 2002.....CCRT700 was still being used and the display, although a different shape, is a similar animal.
Thanks very much, that will make my life so much easier! :y :y :y

I would say you're looking for a:
 green Can High and white Can low wires !
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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #23 on: 29 February 2008, 16:04:09 »

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This is what I think you'll need, based on my testing:

CCRT700 - tech'2 for right config (Bose or Non Bose)
CCRT700 Display (not same as GID, MID, CID or TID)
CDC2 for CCRT700 (different to CDC2 for CCR600/800)
Amp and speakers for Bose (speakers are different to std), and shelf.
If car prewired for phone, connection from CCRT700 to drivers kick panel.  If not prewired, and cellular aerial.
If Bose - a Bose drivers kick panel to amp loom FOR CCRT700.  If non Bose - a non Bose drivers kick panel to CDC2 loom FOR CCRT700
Courtesy light FOR CCRT700

Even with all this, you'll still have to frig the wiring from radio to display, and radio to drivers kick panel.


Even after you've done that, I haven't worked out how to get a CAN based speed signal to CCRT700 - you older CCR600 had a pulse based signal.

I thought the display provided the speed signal over the CAN interface between the display and CCRT.
Thanks, I'll try and look in to that.

Now if I had the schematics from a 1999 car, that would be a huge help (currently kludging together from 1998 (Haynes) and 2002 (TIS), neither cover CCRT700)

Astra-G, 2002.....CCRT700 was still being used and the display, although a different shape, is a similar animal.
Thanks very much, that will make my life so much easier! :y :y :y

I would say you're looking for a:
 green Can High and white Can low wires !
 :y

You're forgetting my loom has nothing, so I have to add....
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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #24 on: 29 February 2008, 16:10:53 »

hmmm i am having great difficulty locating a display! does anyone have a part number????

i have now recieved a;ll this kit


6 X BOSE Speakers
2 X Bose Sub Woofers
2 X Bose Amplifiers i only need one or do i??????????
CCRT 700 & Code
Courtesy Light
CDC 2 CCRT700 Cd Changer
Complete CCRT 700 wiring loom door speakers the lot!

has cost me £100 so far

i take all i need is a display unit now??
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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #25 on: 29 February 2008, 16:10:59 »

I'm not forgetting, I meant I think you should be looking in the passenger footwell for these wires based on TIS.

The green and white seem to be common to the radio, the GID and the CD changer.

Which is what leads me to believe these are the Ebus CAN wires
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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #26 on: 29 February 2008, 16:12:54 »

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hmmm i am having great difficulty locating a display! does anyone have a part number????

i have now recieved a;ll this kit


6 X BOSE Speakers
2 X Bose Sub Woofers
2 X Bose Amplifiers i only need one or do i??????????
CCRT 700 & Code
Courtesy Light
CDC 2 CCRT700 Cd Changer
Complete CCRT 700 wiring loom door speakers the lot!

has cost me £100 so far

i take all i need is a display unit now??

Dude, reference this :

http://www.ccpip.org/800/service/Connctn.html

and tell me on your recently aquired loom, what colour the wires on CCRT700 connector C pins 7,8,10 & 11 are?

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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #27 on: 29 February 2008, 16:25:27 »

ok m8 i will have a look in abit as im at work there are those color connectors on there somewhere and i thought they were for the phone as they went into a 3 core black cable
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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #28 on: 29 February 2008, 16:41:12 »

There are three large connectors that go into the back of the CCRT700, the top one is the 'C' connector, it is this one I want to know the colour of the wires as detailled above.

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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #29 on: 29 February 2008, 16:56:04 »

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hmmm i am having great difficulty locating a display! does anyone have a part number????

i have now recieved a;ll this kit


6 X BOSE Speakers
2 X Bose Sub Woofers
2 X Bose Amplifiers i only need one or do i??????????
CCRT 700 & Code
Courtesy Light
CDC 2 CCRT700 Cd Changer
Complete CCRT 700 wiring loom door speakers the lot!

has cost me £100 so far

i take all i need is a display unit now??

Dude, reference this :

http://www.ccpip.org/800/service/Connctn.html

and tell me on your recently aquired loom, what colour the wires on CCRT700 connector C pins 7,8,10 & 11 are?

From memory, both pairs are blue and yellow, and go to DRIVERS kick panel towards the CD player...
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